Today, Andy and Chelsea Clinton talk about the role of the US in the world as Trump diverges from other world leaders in going it alone in the face of this global pandemic. They also discuss what their parents taught them about America and what they’re telling their own kids. Then, Andy calls author and historian Steven Johnson to put COVID-19 into a global, historical context. 

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Dig into resources mentioned on the show and connect with our guests:

• Check out In Recovery with Dr. Nzinga Harrison, a new advice show from Lemonada Media about all things addiction: http://www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-recovery/
• Check out #opensafely resources and Andy’s joint USA Today Op-Ed here: https://www.open-safely.us/ 
• Read The New Yorker article about Washington State’s COVID-19 communications strategy here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not
• Find out more about the Clinton Foundation here: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/
• Learn more about Partners in Health and how they are recruiting contact tracers here: https://www.pih.org/coronavirus-response
• Check out the Too Small to Fail initiative and how the Clinton Foundation is supporting children at http://toosmall.org/
• Follow Chelsea Clinton on Twitter @ChelseaClinton 
• Listen to Steven Johnson’s podcast Fighting Coronavirus here: Wondery.fm/FC 
• Subscribe to Steven’s other podcast, American Innovations, here: Wondery.fm/AI
• Read about a world-changing historical epidemic in Steven’s book, Ghost Map: https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Map-Londons-Terrifying-Epidemic/dp/1594482691
• For a change of pace, read Enemy of All Mankind, Steven’s latest book here: https://www.amazon.com/Enemy-All-Mankind-Historys-Manhunt/dp/0735211604
• Follow Steven Johnson on Twitter @StevenBJohnson

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