LessWrong (30+ Karma)

“What’s the short timeline plan?” by Marius Hobbhahn


Listen Later

This is a low-effort post. I mostly want to get other people's takes and express concern about the lack of detailed and publicly available plans so far. This post reflects my personal opinion and not necessarily that of other members of Apollo Research. I’d like to thank Ryan Greenblatt, Bronson Schoen, Josh Clymer, Buck Shlegeris, Dan Braun, Mikita Balesni, Jérémy Scheurer, and Cody Rushing for comments and discussion.

I think short timelines, e.g. AIs that can replace a top researcher at an AGI lab without losses in capabilities by 2027, are plausible. Some people have posted ideas on what a reasonable plan to reduce AI risk for such timelines might look like (e.g. Sam Bowman's checklist, or Holden Karnofsky's list in his 2022 nearcast), but I find them insufficient for the magnitude of the stakes (to be clear, I don’t think these example lists were intended to be an [...]

---

Outline:

(02:36) Short timelines are plausible

(07:10) What do we need to achieve at a minimum?

(10:50) Making conservative assumptions for safety progress

(12:33) So whats the plan?

(14:31) Layer 1

(15:41) Keep a paradigm with faithful and human-legible CoT

(18:15) Significantly better (CoT, action and white-box) monitoring

(21:19) Control (that doesn't assume human-legible CoT)

(24:16) Much deeper understanding of scheming

(26:43) Evals

(29:56) Security

(31:52) Layer 2

(32:02) Improved near-term alignment strategies

(34:06) Continued work on interpretability, scalable oversight, superalignment and co

(36:12) Reasoning transparency

(38:36) Safety first culture

(41:49) Known limitations and open questions

---

First published:

January 2nd, 2025

Source:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bb5Tnjdrptu89rcyY/what-s-the-short-timeline-plan

---

Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

LessWrong (30+ Karma)By LessWrong


More shows like LessWrong (30+ Karma)

View all
The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

112,847 Listeners

Astral Codex Ten Podcast by Jeremiah

Astral Codex Ten Podcast

130 Listeners

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat by New York Times Opinion

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

7,206 Listeners

Dwarkesh Podcast by Dwarkesh Patel

Dwarkesh Podcast

531 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,150 Listeners

AI Article Readings by Readings of great articles in AI voices

AI Article Readings

4 Listeners

Doom Debates by Liron Shapira

Doom Debates

14 Listeners

LessWrong posts by zvi by zvi

LessWrong posts by zvi

2 Listeners