Speaking at a convention in Houston, Vice President Kamala Harris condemned former President Trump's remarks about her racial identity, but rather than engaging in a direct debate with him, she criticized his divisiveness, stating that the American people deserve better.

For more, KCBS Radio news anchor Margie Shafer spoke with KCBS Insider Phil Matier and former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown.

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