Welsh Secretary and MP for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire, Simon Hart joins Felicity Evans and Dan Davies at a static caravan in Pendine Sands Holiday Park to talk about his day job as a minister, what's next for the future of the Union and why bird enthusiasts from across the UK flocked to his garden.

He also recalls how he and other senior politicians feared for the PM's life after he was admitted to intensive care with Covid, during the height of the pandemic.

Producer: Emilia Davies