The Welsh Government’s economy minister joins Felicity Evans and James Williams in the pavilion of Lisvane Cricket Club to talk about his love of the game, his time as health minister during the Covid pandemic and the cost of living crisis. Questions about his future ambitions are met with a defensive, straight bat but he does open up on his go to karaoke tune.

This episode includes a personal account of discrimination, with graphic racist language, which listeners could find upsetting.