In this special episode, Dinesh devotes the full hour to an in-depth discussion on fascism and civil war with one of America's preeminent historians, Stanley Payne. An emeritus professor of history at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, Payne is the author of "A Short History of Fascism" and "The Spanish Civil War."  Dinesh engages Payne in a wide-ranging discussion of such questions as, what is the core meaning of fascism? Is fascism on the Right or on the Left? Are there fascist strains in America today?  What are the factors that led up to the Spanish civil war, and are there parallels between Spain then and America now?  Is America headed toward civil strife?  What lessons can we learn from history on how to resist fascism and avoid civil war?

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