in this episode, gather around with grace, talon, tj, and the newest voice, hollis, as they unwrap the layers of president dallin h. oaks' profound talk on the 'kingdoms of glory.' delves into a candid discussion that transcends the surface-level understanding of the plan of salvation, touching on the essence of becoming over mere doing. the hosts share vulnerable moments from their lives, reflecting on mental health struggles, the beauty of mistakes, and the growth that comes from them. they ponder the transformative journey of life, emphasizing how experiences and choices shape us into celestial beings. this conversation is an invitation to look beyond the checklist of spirituality and find a deeper connection with the divine. tune in for an inspiring dialogue!