With the budget finally in our rear view mirror, we debate whether the final plan is a victory for progressives or moderates in the state legislature, look ahead at the remainder of the legislative session and wrap our heads around who has been quietly advising Gov. Kathy Hochul for the last two years.

Our guests are Shontell Smith, co-head of the New York practice for Tusk Strategies, and Josh Solomon, reporter for the Times Union.