It's safe to say we're all dog people around Toaster HQ. They're not big dogs. They're small, cuddly dogs that like to sit on laps and couches and generally give us peace. Unless they see a bike. Bikes are bad news.In the eyes of the law, these adorable creatures are considered pretty simple property. Sure, they're about as easy to split as a toaster, but the court doesn't care. Pets become another box to check. So, what do you do? Turns out, we have somebody for that. We're still in our brief hiatus before our fourth season launches in a few weeks. This week, we take a step back to season 2 when we met Karis Nafte, pet custody expert. She's a dog trainer and animal specialist, and also happens to be an internationally accredited family mediator who helps people figure out what Fido wants. From writing a shared custody plan that really works to working with judges to approaching kids who might be losing their pets in the divorce, Karis has done it all for families in her career, human and fuzzy family members alike. Karis recognized the need for ‘dog centered mediation’ during divorce and now combines her wealth of experience of dogs and family pets with mediation to help her clients make the best decision for their dog’s long-term well-being. She collaborates with mediators and attorneys worldwide as well as offering regular webinars to educate divorce professionals about pets and divorce. Learn more about Karis and her work at whokeepsthedog.com.

• (01:02) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
• (02:00) - Karis Nafte, Pet Custody Specialist
• (03:30) - Getting Started in Pet Custody
• (05:47) - Dogs Primarily
• (06:52) - Making the Right Decision
• (10:15) - Three Month Check-In
• (13:48) - Pets as a Tool
• (15:42) - Shared Custody That Works
• (18:12) - Clear Cases
• (20:25) - Seth's 'Proud' Parenting Moment
• (23:06) - Sorting Out Pet Expenses
• (24:10) - What If My Dog Loves Them More?
• (26:57) - Dealing With Judges
• (27:54) - Working Online Without Seeing the Dog
• (30:43) - In the Courtroom With Animals
• (33:27) - "You can just get another dog."
• (35:59) - Dangerous Term 'Fur Kids'
• (38:00) - Kids Losing Their Pets Through Divorce
• (40:10) - Scope of Work
• (41:27) - Wrapping Up