‘ Like an HR manager, not a leader’. This is the description of Sir Keir Starmer from his closest and most influential aide, according to a new book by two Times journalists. It’s just one of the many insights uncovered by Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund who lift the lid on the inner workings of the Labour Party and the power struggles behind the scenes.

If that’s what the prime minister’s people think of him, who’s really running the country?

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Guests: 

• Patrick Maguire, columnist, The Times.
• Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall Editor, The Sunday Times. 

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producer: Edward Drummond.

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Clips: BBC, Labour Together, 5News, Channel 4 News.

Illustration: Russel Herneman, The Sunday Times.

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