No longer considered an ephemeral concept as it originally was, data management has become a huge issue and challenge, especially for managing stateless data in Kubernetes environments. 

Cloud Native Data Management Day at the recently held KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe 2021 event in May and the state of data management were the subject of discussion in this edition of The New Stack Makers podcast, hosted by Alex Williams, founder and publisher of The New Stack. The guests were Michael Cade, senior global technologist, Veeam Software and Nigel Poulton, owner of nigelpoulton.com, which offers Kubernetes and Docker training and other services. Both Cade and Poulton were also involved in the organization of Cloud Native Data Management Day.