An organization’s shift to a cloud native environment will invariably involve the adoption of control, data planes, and a number of other Kubernetes and microservices-specific platforms and tools to help manage the Kubernetes “parallel universe.” Additionally, many DevOps team members, including developers, will need to adopt new skill sets to make the shift.

In this edition of The New Stack Makers podcast, Alex Williams, TNS founder and publisher, speaks with analyst Janakiram MSV about the context of the Kubernetes parallel universes. They also discuss the developer experience, how GitOps is helping to plug in some of the gaps and the idea of cluster sprawl and how it relates to multicloud environments.

The New Stack recently published its latest edition of “The State of the Kubernetes Ecosystem” ebook, which MSV authored that can also serve as a guide. The second chapter of the ebook offers a detailed overview of the cloud-ready and cloud native worlds. The chapter “maps” the new ecosystem that is “growing exponentially.”