Scott Brinker, Vice President of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and Chiefmartech.com blog Editor, believes that the eventual elimination of targeting mechanisms such as cookies and mobile IDs is forcing CMOs to focus on improving other aspects of their marketing efforts - which he says have been neglected as brands fixated on ad targeting. Brinker also discusses why he's seeing more startups and money pour into marketing technology than ever before despite all the changes within the ecosystem.

Guest: Scott Brinker

Host: Mike Shields

Producer: Kenya Hayes