Phil Carpenter is the Director of Operations at Urban Autocare and Avalon Motorsports, overseeing seven locations in the Denver, Colorado area. He began his career as a technician and became the first employee in what was once a two-person shop, eventually helping grow the business into a 55-person operation.

His experience spans every stage of scaling an auto repair shop; from turning wrenches to leading teams, building systems, and managing multi-location complexity. That progression gives him a grounded perspective on what actually breaks, evolves, and demands attention as shops grow beyond a single location.

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In this episode…

Growth doesn’t fail loudly at first. It slips in through divided attention, stretched leadership, and roles that multiply faster than the team can support.

Scaling an auto repair shop introduces a different kind of pressure, one that doesn’t show up in car count or revenue reports. It shows up in managers juggling three roles, in culture that starts to drift, and in decisions that carry more weight than they did at one location. The systems that once worked stop holding, and the habits that built the business begin to limit it.

This conversation centers on what actually changes as a shop grows. The shift from technician to leader, the cost of trying to do everything at once, and the reality that profitability is what allows a business to stand behind its work when things go wrong. Scaling an auto repair shop demands sharper focus, stronger systems, and a clear understanding of where leadership attention belongs.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn: 

[01:15] Background and introduction of Phil Carpenter

[02:39] Early career path and entry into the automotive industry

[04:15] Building culture through care and accountability

[07:16] Early challenges and stagnant growth in the first location

[10:57] Transition from technician to advisor and manager

[14:40] Operational strain from wearing multiple roles

[20:33] Profitability as a foundation for stability and customer care

[22:50] Leadership framework: execution, preparation, and review

[26:48] Personal background and life outside the shop

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Phil Carpenter on LinkedIn
• Urban Autocare Website
• Avalon Motorsports Website
• Tread Partners
• Gain Traction Podcast on YouTube
• Gain Traction Podcast Website
• Mike Edge on LinkedIn

Quotable Moments:

• “I can be a very good technician and I can be a very good service advisor, but I cannot do them at the exact same time.”
• “We know how to take care of people, and we’re going to do that really, really well.”
• “We can love and care about you, but that doesn’t mean that we don’t expect you to do a really good job.”
• “If we’re not running our businesses soundly and with profit, we start squeezing pennies and stop standing behind what we do.”
• “Feedback is a gift.”

Action Steps:

1. Audit current roles across your team and eliminate overlap where one person is carrying multiple critical functions. Divided attention is one of the fastest ways scaling an auto repair shop breaks down operationally.
2. Define clear accountability standards for each role and enforce them consistently. Culture weakens when expectations stay informal.
3. Review profitability at a granular level. Margin is what allows the business to take care of customers without hesitation when mistakes happen.
4. Identify one process that worked at a single location and stress-test it across multiple locations. Systems must evolve as complexity increases.
5. Build a leadership habit of preparation and review. Go into key conversations with intent, then evaluate performance immediately after to improve the next decision.