Changing The Industry Podcast

Changing The Industry Podcast

By David Roman & Lucas UnderwoodBusinessLeisureAutomotiveManagement
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Changing The Industry Podcast episodes

  • Episode 293 - Are Industry Events Worth It? Debating Costs, Culture, and Team Growth With Limitless Leadership

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Lucas and David welcome Josh Parnell, founder and CEO of Limitless Leadership, and leadership coach Bret Beitler. The conversation focuses on leadership development in the automotive industry, with Josh highlighting the importance of empowering team members and building a culture of coachability and accountability. The group explores the value and return on investment of team engagement at industry events, discussing both the benefits and the practical challenges of shutting down a shop for staff training.

    00:00 Concerns about closing the shop

    06:17 Employee engagement and productivity

    15:31 Previewing industry trends and vendors

    21:25 Encouraging team feedback and ideas

    26:20 Coaching through questions and discovery

    31:59 Embracing a coachable mindset

    35:02 Critiquing Social Media Consumption

    38:50 Conceptualizing Hypotheticals on Instagram

    46:46 Empowering leadership and team development

    48:58 Discussion on Milwaukee Pipeline Event

    59:06 Building a Future in the U.S.

    01:02:25 Awkward store encounter

    01:05:16 Wrapping up the discussion

    1 hr 6 min
  • Episode 292 - Unlocking Employee Potential and Navigating Turnover With Brian Zemba

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman join Brian Zemba, founder of CHG Leadership Consulting. Brian Zemba highlights the lack of leadership training among shop owners and the resulting impact on workplace culture and employee satisfaction. David Roman offers a counterpoint, questioning whether employees truly know what they want and emphasizing the challenges of motivating and retaining talent. Together, the trio explores the concept of "positive turnover"—helping employees find roles that fit their strengths, even if it means moving on—which can ultimately strengthen a shop's culture and success.

    00:00 Auto repair pricing and convenience

    09:40 Importance of Leadership Training

    13:25 Mechanics as consumer advocates

    17:56 Employee dependency and retention

    27:51 Using emotional intelligence

    32:25 Discussing effective communication and culture

    34:22 Understanding Positive Turnover

    42:48 Teaching kids entrepreneurship skills

    45:06 Coaching and wisdom in leadership

    50:34 Generational differences and workforce quality

    59:51 Being curious in business relationships

    01:01:18 Seeking understanding and ending conflict

    1 hr 3 min
  • Episode 291 - Pricing for Profit and Purpose in the Modern Auto Shop with Josh & Pixi Pickthall

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, David and Lucas welcome Pixi Pickthall and Josh from Mesa, Arizona. Pixi and Josh share their unique approach to shop ownership, blending Josh’s decades of industry experience with Pixi’s social work background to create a highly personalized customer experience. The conversation dives deep into the challenges of setting proper labor rates, the importance of understanding financial metrics, and the need to balance quality service with fair profitability.

    00:00 Managing warehouse logistics

    09:25 Name change and market saturation

    12:50 Observations from working at dealership

    17:16 Challenges in hiring skilled technicians

    22:29 Implementing DVX for consistency

    29:16 Improving client experience

    36:25 Handling customer complaints

    39:22 Court warranty responsibility discussion

    45:55 Talking auto shop math basics

    49:50 Struggling with car ownership choices

    59:17 Financial stability and customer selection

    01:02:01 Seeking expert financial advice

    01:09:12 Auto Repair Shop Basics series

    01:10:48 Facing challenges and setbacks

    1 hr 14 min
  • Episode 290 - ADAS Calibrations, Shop Liability, and the Role of Industry Associations With Tom Elder & Joe Ocello

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Lucas and David sit down with Joe Ocello and Tom Elder from AASP New Jersey to discuss the state of the mechanical and collision repair industries. Tom shares his perspective on the growing need for specialized education and proper documentation as vehicles become more technologically advanced. Joe emphasizes the importance of ongoing technical training and communication to keep independent shops competitive and safe.

    00:00 Teaching and building a skilled team

    08:22 Ignoring safety instructions

    14:35 Discussing mechanical challenges

    19:55 Dealership service concerns

    26:33 Replacing a deformed metal line

    28:52 Carrying on the industry's legacy

    34:24 Importance of business education

    42:42 Dealing with repair mishaps

    46:03 Discussing lawsuit strategy and repairs

    49:57 Used car ADAS diagnostic work

    58:46 Maryland ADAS certification debate

    01:00:51 Discussing automotive repair regulations

    01:08:25 Engaging shops beyond North Carolina

    01:10:31 Staying focused on future goals

    1 hr 12 min
  • Episode 289 - Rich Fasulo aka Check Engine Chuck Talks Shop Failure to Mobile & Social Media Success

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, the conversation focused on Rich Fasulo's career journey, also known as Check Engine Chuck, as he shared his path from mobile diagnostics to shop ownership and back. One concept discussed was the importance of charging appropriately for diagnostic and repair work, with a strong emphasis on valuing your time and not giving away discounts out of pocket. A key theme that emerged was the struggle to balance caring for customers with running a profitable, sustainable business—highlighting how industry integrity depends on both technical skill and smart business decisions.

    00:00 Choosing between shop and mobile business

    06:56 Failing van inspection in New York

    08:19 Fixing my car with a friend

    11:42 Fixing a wheel balance issue

    14:25 Learning from Scannerdanner videos

    19:54 Writing detailed explanations for claims

    23:37 Ensuring quality and reputation

    25:38 Frustration with lack of effort

    27:23 Frustration with tech industry's focus

    30:26 Reflecting on past business failures

    35:51 Explaining billing to customers

    38:59 Realizing a Habitual Pattern

    42:03 Learning from industry peers

    44:34 Sharing videos for personal reasons

    48:38 Diagnosing and strategizing module repairs

    51:47 Troubleshooting a no-crank issue

    53:37 Bringing in more mechanical vendors

    55 min
  • Episode 288 - Transitioning from Finance to the Garage with Lance Lupi of Lee Myles Auto Care

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, the conversation focused on transitions into shop ownership, the challenges of maintaining industry standards, and planning for long-term success. The discussion explored how entering the automotive industry from a corporate background can offer a unique advantage, especially in management and process implementation. A key theme was the importance of building a strong shop culture rooted in quality and integrity, even when customer awareness often hinges more on convenience than craftsmanship. Lastly, several points highlighted the need to prepare exit strategies and succession plans early, ensuring shop owners are ready for both expected and unexpected changes in their business journeys.

    00:00 Airport confusion during an emergency

    05:04 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

    07:52 The importance of personal artifacts

    13:07 Struggles with delegation in auto shops

    16:44 Starting coaching with confidence

    17:18 Embracing Change to Drive Growth

    21:54 Father-in-law's car passion

    26:27 Long-term planning for business owners

    28:20 Learning about health savings accounts

    33:01 Attending a life-changing class

    36:53 Working in car parts sales

    38:18 Realizing customers don't notice quality

    43:06 Proper car wheel maintenance

    45:12 Ensuring job tasks are completed

    49:19 Discussing shop culture impact

    53:38 Workplace culture and technician skills

    57:05 Values and integrity in coaching

    58:52 Building a supportive team

    1 hr 1 min
  • Episode 287 - Overcoming Rust Belt Challenges With Colin Thielman

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Lucas Underwood and David Roman are joined by Colin Thielman, owner of Thielman's Auto Repair in Pemberton, New Jersey. Colin shares his journey from running a busy home-based garage to opening a dedicated shop, emphasizing the steep learning curve and the importance of building out documentation and management systems. The conversation also covers adapting to new automotive technologies and the need for continuous training, as well as the crucial role of detailed financial tracking in scaling a business.

    00:00 Facing tough feedback and growth

    03:43 Managing workflow and staying busy

    09:25 Checking vehicle calibration needs

    12:39 Discussing insurance coverage options

    13:55 Insurance issues with car lifts

    19:14 Adjusting labor rates

    21:11 Analyzing car sales and costs

    24:42 Prius ABS module recall

    27:04 Discussing client concerns and liabilities

    29:23 Diagnosing car start issues

    35:31 Planning for retirement

    36:49 Discussing a faulty Chevy Avalanche

    39:47 Documenting vehicle condition with photos

    42:39 Hershey management training advice

    45:24 Training a New Employee

    51:10 Getting into diesel truck repair

    51:43 Balancing finances for survival

    54 min
  • Bonus Episode - Navigating Trade Shows and AI Hype with Cavan Robinson & Tony Mercury

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Lucas and David are joined by Cavan Robinson and Tony Mercury of Vehlo from STX 2026. Cavan and Tony explore the evolving trade show landscape, discussing how rising costs and market saturation have changed their approach to event participation. They also dive into the growing influence of AI in the industry, highlighting both the opportunities and challenges it brings to shop management and marketing.

    00:00 Evaluating trade show expenses

    10:25 Finding the right trade show staff

    14:31 Attending the Northeast Show and Milwaukee Event

    17:37 Improving event attendance strategies

    25:47 Issues with recurring trade shows

    30:12 Questioning Technical Training Value

    35:21 Lunch with Margaret discussing retirement

    38:42 Advice for growing your business

    46:56 AI's impact on SEO strategies

    53:41 Managing AI Data and Partnerships

    57:36 Using GuestX for call issues

    01:00:29 Catfish leads to divorce

    1 hr 5 min
  • Episode 286 - Building a Mobile Auto Shop With A Full-Time Job with Jim Montagner

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, Jim Montagner, a traveling GM world-class tech and owner of Valley Motor Auto and Truck, shares his unconventional entry into the automotive industry, beginning as a Vo-Tech student and eventually moving from independent shops to dealerships. Jim details the challenges of transitioning to mobile diagnostics, emphasizing the importance of sound business practices, such as bookkeeping and proper pricing, to sustain and eventually grow his business. The conversation explores the necessity of ongoing education in both technical skills and business management, highlighting the critical balance between delivering quality repairs and ensuring business profitability.

    00:00 Choosing a career path

    06:27 Discussing the cost of living

    06:56 Finding inspiration from others

    10:44 Expanding from diesel to general repairs

    15:28 Customer perceptions of mobile repair costs

    18:39 Talking to shop owners

    20:10 Pricing strategy challenges

    25:04 Unqualified mechanics hurting reputation

    28:38 Managing inconsistent work hours

    31:56 Navigating business start-up challenges

    33:27 Check Engine Chuck's viral success

    36:58 Finding first big job by chance

    41:49 Pricing for profitability in auto shops

    45:30 Learning ECM and EEPROM Programming

    48:39 Vacation scheduling challenges

    49:26 Making weekend plans

    55:33 Understanding Business Profit Margins

    57:27 Reading business books for success

    59:39 Planning future recording session

    1 hr
  • Episode 285 - Bad Reviews Can Lead To Better Practices With Brett Hunziker

    Don't get to the end of this year wishing you had taken action to change your business and your life.
    Click here to schedule a free discovery call for your business: https://geni.us/IFORABE

    Don't miss an upcoming event with The Institute: https://geni.us/InstituteEvents2026

    Shop-Ware gives you the tools to provide your shop with everything needed to become optimally profitable.
    Click here to schedule a free demo: https://info.shop-ware.com/profitability


    Transform your shop's marketing with the best in the automotive industry, Shop Marketing Pros!
    Get a free audit of your shop's current marketing by clicking here: https://geni.us/ShopMarketingPros

    Shop owners, are you ready to simplify your business operations? Meet 360 Payments, your one-stop solution for effortless payment processing.

    Imagine this—no more juggling receipts, staplers, or endless paperwork. With 360 Payments, you get everything integrated into a single, sleek digital platform.

    Simplify payments. Streamline operations. Check out 360payments.com today!


    In this episode, the conversation focused on real-world challenges faced by shop owners and technicians, including the complexities of managing customer expectations and navigating negative reviews. One concept discussed was the need for transparent diagnostic processes and detailed communication, especially when customers question pricing or feel they already know the issue with their vehicles. A key theme that emerged was the importance of accurate shop management—covering everything from parts inventory to internal controls in software like Shop-Ware—to ensure profitability and reduce clerical errors.

    00:00 Out-of-province vehicle inspections

    06:53 Florida driver's license language law

    15:54 Construction mistake with leaning structure

    16:42 Visiting the 9/11 Memorial Museum

    23:08 Challenges of Replacing Headlights

    27:58 Car repair frustration and miscommunication

    32:35 Discussing diagnostic trouble codes

    37:32 Introducing Whisperflow for Note-Taking

    47:24 Customer dissatisfaction with tire pricing

    50:29 Dealer pricing and customer experiences

    56:11 Adjusting labor rates and pay structure

    01:01:02 Evaluating Business Efficiency and Labor

    01:09:15 Old machinist's inventory strategy

    01:09:52 Buying and selling steel

    1 hr 12 min

About Changing The Industry Podcast

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This podcast is dedicated to changing the automotive industry for the better, one conversation at a time.

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