Gospelbound

Why Therapy Can’t Replace the Church


Listen Later

You will find many books on the biblical and practical importance of the local church. I wrote one myself a few years ago with Jonathan Leeman called Rediscover Church: Why the Body of Christ Is Essential. But few books can match the way Brad Edwards shows us the need for the church amid rampant anxiety, division, and individualism. Not only our churches but even whole societies would be transformed by implementing the wisdom found in this book, called The Reason for Church

Brad is the church planter of The Table Church in Lafayette, Colorado. His debut book has been justly acclaimed. He won the 2025 Christianity Today Book of the Year Award and also finished first in the Church and Pastoral Leadership category. He was the winner of The Gospel Coalition's award for First-Time Author that year as well. I’m grateful that he joins me now to talk about everything from authority and institutions to anxiety and whether unity should be the goal for a church.

In This Episode:

00:00 – Opening: power, trust, and the temptation toward conformity
00:26 – Introducing Brad Edwards and The Reason for Church
01:41 – Ranking the causes behind declining trust in church authority
04:05 – Accountability, social media, and the limits of online justice
08:25 – Churches, institutions, platforms, and marketplace logic
11:17 – What changes people’s minds about the need for church?
13:27 – Church planting in Boulder County and Colorado’s anti-institutional culture
17:01 – Therapy culture, spiritual abuse, and what the book could not fully address
22:19 – Institution building, movements, and building a remnant
26:30 – Technology, schedules, and the challenge of spiritual formation
29:09 – Individuality versus individualism
34:39 – Should unity be the goal of a church?
37:49 – What surprised Brad most about becoming a pastor
39:21 – AI, agency, and the future of formation
43:07 – Hartmut Rosa, resonance, gambling, and the desire for control
46:55 – AI, education, responsibility, and authorship
52:05 – The church as remnant and refuge in a changing world
53:19 – What pastors want their congregations to know
56:41 – Closing and Gospelbound outro

Resources Mentioned:
  • The Reason for Church by Brad Edwards
  • Rediscover Church by Collin Hansen and Jonathan Leeman
  • Bowling Alone by Robert D. Putnam
  • Yuval Levin’s work on institutions
  • Bully Pulpit by Michael J. Kruger
  • GIRLS® by Freya India
  • The Reason for God by Tim Keller
  • Center Church by Tim Keller
  • Dominion by Tom Holland
  • Habits of the Heart by Robert Bellah
  • The Uncontrollability of the World by Hartmut Rosa
  • PostEverything, Brad Edwards’s podcast with John Homsher
  • Harper’s Magazine article on young AI founders
  •  

    — — —

     

    📫 SIGN UP for my newsletter, Unseen Things:

    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/podcasts/gospelbound

    🎁 Help The Gospel Coalition build up a renewed church for tomorrow. Let's Build Together: Donate Today at https://www.tgc.org/together

    🎧 Don’t miss an episode of Gospelbound with Collin Hansen

    ▫ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gospelbound/id1499898207

    ▫ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0kRYr5FTKr5ru1N7MR65Br

    ✅ SUBSCRIBE: 

    ▫ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thegospelcoalition

    ▫ TGC Updates: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/newsletters


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    GospelboundBy The Gospel Coalition, Collin Hansen

    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7

    4.7

    333 ratings


    More shows like Gospelbound

    View all
    Timothy Keller Sermons Podcast by Gospel in Life by Tim Keller

    Timothy Keller Sermons Podcast by Gospel in Life

    16,086 Listeners

    TGC Podcast by The Gospel Coalition

    TGC Podcast

    1,131 Listeners

    Help Me Teach The Bible by The Gospel Coalition, Nancy Guthrie

    Help Me Teach The Bible

    749 Listeners

    The Russell Moore Show by Christianity Today, Russell Moore

    The Russell Moore Show

    1,137 Listeners

    Word Of The Week by The Gospel Coalition

    Word Of The Week

    77 Listeners

    Mere Fidelity by Mere Fidelity

    Mere Fidelity

    355 Listeners

    CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet by CCEF

    CCEF Podcast: Where Life & Scripture Meet

    302 Listeners

    Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks by 9Marks

    Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

    719 Listeners

    Knowing Faith by Kyle Worley, JT English, Jen Wilkin

    Knowing Faith

    2,361 Listeners

    The Crossway Podcast by Crossway

    The Crossway Podcast

    637 Listeners

    Read The Bible by The Gospel Coalition

    Read The Bible

    125 Listeners

    TGC Q&A by The Gospel Coalition

    TGC Q&A

    180 Listeners

    Let's Talk by Jackie Hill Perry, Melissa Kruger, Jasmine Holmes

    Let's Talk

    1,123 Listeners

    Life and Books and Everything by Clearly Reformed

    Life and Books and Everything

    642 Listeners

    Trinity Forum Conversations by The Trinity Forum

    Trinity Forum Conversations

    221 Listeners

    You're Not Crazy by Sam Allberry, Ray Ortlund, The Gospel Coalition

    You're Not Crazy

    211 Listeners

    Recorded by The Gospel Coalition

    Recorded

    132 Listeners

    Confronting Christianity with Rebecca McLaughlin by Rebecca McLaughlin

    Confronting Christianity with Rebecca McLaughlin

    320 Listeners

    Glo by The Gospel Coalition

    Glo

    46 Listeners

    Post-Christianity? by The Gospel Coalition

    Post-Christianity?

    80 Listeners

    The Carson Center Podcast by The Gospel Coalition, Don Carson

    The Carson Center Podcast

    53 Listeners

    The Everyday Pastor by Matt Smethurst, Ligon Duncan

    The Everyday Pastor

    87 Listeners

    Doctrine Matters with Kevin DeYoung by Crossway

    Doctrine Matters with Kevin DeYoung

    155 Listeners

    The Deep Dish by The Gospel Coalition

    The Deep Dish

    319 Listeners