Why Won't You Love Yourself?

Can you believe the pod turned five this year? Even wilder: we’re still here: still rambling. still flopping. you can basically call us the Katy Perry of podcasts: unreliable, occasionally camp, and somehow keep coming back when no one asked. Just kidding... but also not really.

In this episode, we finally catch up after our trip to Hawaii! who had a steamy club encounter? who insisted on being naked the entire time? And which local recs actually lived up to the hype?

We also get into:

• The latest gaysian TikTok drama (yes, again)

• What Lee’s friend did to get “cancelled”

• How Nuri’s been feeling himself lately (a gym era is upon us)

• And how pretty privilege shapes and sometimes breaks relationships

Plus: Lee shares a few chaotic club stories from LA and Vietnam, because of course he does.

Thanks for sticking around through our flaky, feral little podcast journey. We make no promises, but we are trying to show up for ourselves. and if you're still here, we love you for it 🥺👉👈

Dear viewers, we were truly unable to fully come to terms with our opinions on Sh*n from Netflix's new sensational gay Asian dating show, The Boyfriend. This could potentially be our last episode... Tensions rise as we try to list off our rankings of the members... Who's Lee's #1?! Why does everyone love Kazuto? Was Nuri right about what might potentially happen in the last two episodes?! (At the time of recording, it was not out yet... and yes, he was.)

Thanks for tuning and listening to our amazing cultural commentary on the show that's sweeping over Gaysia right now! We'll be back with some regularly scheduled (or irregularly??) program soon! Maybe... with someone who everyone has 💦 to?! Is it time for the O*lyF*ns episode?!

We're working late 'cause we're podcasters (four times a year). 🎶

Welcome back to our pod! Hopefully, everyone tuned in to our special guest appearance on @literallygaysians during our mid-season break. 😛 Keep your eyes peeled in the future for potentially more cross-over episodes, but with hopefully less ageist jokes and discourse....

Speaking of EDC as well, it was such a fun time getting to meet some of the listeners of the pod and it was also there where we got our inspiration for another topic of discussion: baby gays?! What does Lee think about these fggt fetuses? Do they even actually exist within the community in the context of what Nuri defines them as? And most importantly, LOVE baby gays.

Thank you all so much for the continued support! It always means a lot to us, knowing that our voices are amplified within this community. Whether that's a good thing or not, tbd. But one thing we know for sure... LOVE podcasting.

Baby can't you seeeEeEe? You belong with meEeEeEeee! It's a new year, new episode, and we're coming out as #Swifties! As in we'll swiftly leave the room if Taylor is playing.

It's been a long time since we've caught up so obviously, the first thing Nuri needed to vent is about someone famous he saw. Take tips if you don't want to rub Nuri the wrong way (or the right way... 😏)

A lot has happened since our last episode! Nuri talks about his trip to see Lee in LA and what his favourite parts were (🍆? 💦???!) and Lee may or may not tell a little story what "fun" he might've had at Taiwan pride.

We also apparently regress back to our first few episodes where we talk a lot about belonging. What does it mean to "belong" in a community or a city? Why is it so difficult to make new gay friends the older you get?

Thank you for listening and supporting us after THREE. WHOLE. YEARS?!? It was also really nice getting to see people in person who support the pod!

Originally published February 1, 2021

After a brief stint of just bantering, we’re finally back on a topic! 

On the subject of being late as well, we’re a few weeks behind but we address the whether or not people should cancel gays over covid, @GaysOverCovid, or #GaysOverGaysOverCovid...

We also talk about some listener DMs— specifically one that unabashedly called one of us bitter. But who’s the actual bitter one and who’s just secretly hiding it?

And in the spirit of continuing this never-ending saga/story of Lee’s confrontation, he has an update on something else that happened and it might’ve unlocked a repressed memory from Nuri.

OUR MAIN TOPIC OF THE WEEK... month..... whenever we want(?)..... is authenticity and clout-chasing, sprinkled in with a little talk of validation. What does it mean to be authentic on the internet? Do people deserve authenticity? What are the differences between being transparent and being authentic? Will anything Nuri says about this topic sound cohesive and non-self-contradictory? Who knows?

Our last lil bit to end off the show (forever!!!!) ((jk)) is Nuri leaving. Lee decided to surprise Nur with a little list of “top Nuri and Lee moments”— which also threw Nuri off because he doesn’t top that often. (jk only if ur really cute.)

Will he be back from the cold hell that is Calgary?! Will he finally ride a cowboy?!

Originally published May 16, 2020

We’re queer, we’re here, and we’re about to get canceled! Join us as we examine our bad life decisions, talk shit, and take a deep dive into our personal stories and experiences of being gay and Asian. Sometimes funny, mostly not serious.

In this premier episode, we talk about Gaysians at EDC, sincerity in Tinder bios, Lee goes on an apology tour, and Nuri finds a community through posting thirst traps on Tumblr.

We're back to celebrate the end of summer with a new episode! Here's hoping that listening to us ramble won't make you a little homophobic. 

We do a quick catch-up about what's been going on. Is Nuri going to be a potential reality tv star in the making? What kind of fun interactions did Lee recently have with the LA #gaysian community?! How many donks will Nuri manage to engulf on his trip to LA? (Hopefully, any number more than none would be ideal.)

Our main topic is Pride! What does it mean to be "proud" of your community and what our own personal experiences with all the festivities and parades are. What is it about pride season that resonates with us (Spoiler alert: nothing???) and how do we see ourselves fitting in with everyone else? (Spoiler alert: we don't????)

If you have a topic or idea for the pod, please send it to us! If you have a big th**k unc** ** for Nuri, please also send that into the DMs too. We'll be hanging out in LA for the next few days as well! Thank you for all the support and feedback we've been receiving!

How to support us!

Instagram: instagram.com/whywontyouloveyourself

Twitter: twitter.com/plzloveurself

Send us your questions and comments to [email protected]

Hi, it's us again, we're back. Let's talk ASAP. Do you have the time? Let's talk! 🐰

Lots and lots of big changes here on the pod since the last time we've released an episode! Nuri came ** * ***, Lee ** and ** * **.... You'll have to listen to find out. 😜 (Although genuinely, it's no news that we're both in different cities again.

We catch up on our trip to EDC... again?! For two people who consistently talk about how much they don't care for it, we sure do end up there a lot. There are some stories that may or may not involve surprises, rolling, moaning, d**ching, and finding peace amongst a sea of sweaty shirtless gaysians.

Oh, and we can't forget about all the drama that came out of what transpired between a certain Vancouver gaysian and what felt like the (w)hole of the community.

And on the topic of making enemies, we find out who Lee's offended since moving back to LA and what kind of fights he's gotten into. You'd be surprised to know that in a short period of time and in a city that big, he somehow managed to see a controversial figure from his past.... Were drinks thrown? Did someone get physically and verbally attacked? Or has Lee finally entered his #peaceful and #unproblematic era and not create any new enemies?!

Now that we live in different cities again, we do want your feedback on what kind of episodes you'd want from us! Did everyone prefer ones that were a little more serious and subject-based or would y'all rather us spread gossip from our cities and catch up regularly on what's been going on? We're past the point of promising ever releasing anything consistently but we're still going to be here as often as we can! 😵‍💫

Thank you for the support! And if you're in LA in September, Nuri's going to be visiting so please send some pole referrals his way.

How to support us!

Instagram: instagram.com/whywontyouloveyourself

Twitter: twitter.com/plzloveurself

Send us your questions and comments to [email protected]

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Hi gay! Happy Pride month! It would be homophobic of us to not release something, wouldn't it?

We're back like an elephant with a vengeance! In this episode we talk about our recent New York City trip, EDC and the new movie Fire Island! 

Why did we end up having an argument in Vegas? What kind of sticky situations did Lee find his hands full of in a Vegas hotel room surrounded by gaysians?.... And why is Nuri now coming out as a home of phobe? 

And to wrap it all up, we talk about the new movie Fire Island (featuring Joel Kim Booster and Bowen Yang, directed by Andrew Ahn), as well as some parallels to our recent Vegas trip— such as social hierarchy, the desire to fit in, as well as the need for validation. Please watch the movie! It's so significant to have a film released that's written by, directed by, and starring gaysians. It's kinda like the Crazy Rich Asians of our community, except they both end up fucking white men at the end. (Which... I guess does happen.)

If you've watched it, let us know which one of us is more Bowen(Howie) and who is more Joel(Noah)!

Thank you for the support and it was nice seeing everyone at EDC who came up to us! We hopefully plan on doing shorter but more frequent episodes! Bye gay!