We spoke with Karmit Even Zur, an artist from United Kingdom whose practice revolves around the dynamic interactions between humans and the non-human world, author of 'Nashwat al 3obour', a text where Karmit reflects on the human desire to connect with the unseen, and how pleasure may give us access to the land's own imagination and desires. On the other hand, we spoke with Hanna Laura Kaljio, an estonian writer who through her work explores the interrelationship between creativity, movement and belonging in an era of climate change, she is the authore of 'Longing of the Migrant Waters, a text where Hanna traces the wayfaring Abhisarika Nayika as a gateway into thinking desire, movement and belonging as braided, after witnessing the ways of water through those who live the landscapes of India.