Throwing it back to host Todd Helms’ roots with episode 61… Ruffed grouse in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Kyle Warren of Paint River Llewellins in Ironwood, Michigan. Kyle breeds and trains Llewellin setters and is a wealth of information on dogs in general. We’ve never heard scenting and scent cones described in as much detail or understood them better than after our chat with Kyle. We also 100% agree with Kyle’s take on owning the “right” dog and how breeders can help make that decision easier. Todd did that with Hondo and it was a very good decision. If you’re an upland hunter or a dog person this is a can’t miss episode.