Albert Einstein wrote that “Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of the empirical world; all knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it.” If you specialise in Women’s Health and Fertility then this episode of Heavenly Qi is essential listening. With nearly 40 years of combined experience co-hosts Naava Carman and Clare Pyers delve into past cases, examining what they have learned and what they would do different.

Naava has been in practice over 20 years and spends most of her time working with tricky multi-faceted Reproductive Immunology issues in women over 40 such as recurrent miscarriage, unexplained infertility and multiple failed ART cycles. When she isn't practicing, Naava runs the Fertility Support Trained Community. You can check out her training on www.fertilitysupport.training which houses The Advanced Level Diploma in Fertility Acupuncture. This is the most comprehensive integrated medicine course available to help Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioners gain an in-depth understanding of some of the most complex issues in fertility, such as the role of the immune system and how Traditional Chinese Medicine can support artificial reproductive techniques like IVF, IUI and ICSI.