Make Me A Nerd with Mandy Kaplan

Wonder Man: A Superhero Show About Not Being a Superhero


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Wonder Man is, technically speaking, a Marvel show. It exists in the MCU. Captain America is out there somewhere. The Hulk is presumably smashing things. And none of that matters even a little bit, because this is a show about a guy who bombs auditions, self-sabotages every relationship he has, and quotes Pretty Woman during an improv because he's too afraid to access a genuine emotion. Simon Williams has a superpower, sure, but his actual problem is that he's every actor you've ever met who's three bad decisions away from selling real estate — which, by the way, Joey Pantoliano's character would enthusiastically recommend.Matthew Fox returns to the show and admits they’re the noob this time. Because while Matthew can navigate the MCU lore — explaining Trevor Slattery's bonkers journey from fake terrorist in Iron Man 3 to mystical land adventurer in Shang-Chi to reluctant government informant — it's Mandy who actually understands the world in which this show lives. The auditions that feel like psychological warfare. The directors who demand you "take risks" and then get furious when you do. The friends who call casting offices pretending to be your manager. All of it is painfully, hilariously real, and the show treats it with a respect that certain podcasts hosted by extremely famous actors have never managed.Matthew unpacks Wonder Man's superpower as a metaphor for passing — for anyone who's ever had to hide a fundamental part of themselves to get a job, keep a relationship, or just survive. It's the kind of reading that makes you realize why science fiction matters: not because the problems are unimaginable, but because they look exactly like the ones we can imagine. And if that doesn't get you, the show also features a black-and-white standalone episode about a guy called Damar the Doorman whose entire superpower is that people can walk through him, which is both the most absurd premise imaginable and a devastatingly accurate parable about how we consume and discard fame. Josh Gad plays himself as a monster. The episode description is literally just "Ding dong." It's perfect.By the finale, Simon hasn't become a hero in any traditional sense. He breaks his best friend out of jail — not to save the world, just because Trevor took the fall for him and that's what you do. It's personal and small and exactly right. Mandy and Matthew agree: this is a character study wearing a superhero costume it never actually puts on, and it's better for it.Links & Notes
  • Matthew Fox's hub: TheEthicalPanda.com
  • The Marvel Movie Minute podcast (currently covering Captain America: Winter Soldier)
  • Wonder Man on Disney+

If you like this episode ... 
  • The Goonies (featuring Mandy's Joey Pantoliano confession)
  • Agatha All Along
  • Captain America
  • Thunderbolts (Make Me A Nerd)
  • Thunderbolts (Superhero Ethics)
  • Thunderbolts (The Film Board)
  • The Penguin (with Matthew Fox)
  • The Orville (with Matthew Fox)
  • Last of Us (with Matthew Fox)

Links & Notes
  • Follow Mandy on Instagram: @mandy_kaplan_klavens
  • Join the nerdy inner circle: makemeanerd.com/join

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