In this episode, Jason Conforto and Brandon Mull are joined by twins Jon and Dan Heder. You probably know Jon from Napoleon Dynamite, but together the Heder brothers have been creating animated projects and writing stories in some unexpected ways. They talk about what it’s like to collaborate as twins, how writing for animation differs from writing books, and how inspiration can come from the most non-traditional places.

Edited by Karter Brown

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