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We go headfirst down the bunny hole and imagine what the UFO phenomenon might be. The possibilities range from extremely unsettling to profoundly exciting. 

One heads up: this episode is what you could call advanced. It's entirely speculative and most of it will sound full on bananas if you're not already into ufology. 

If that sounds fun to you, you're going to have a good time with this one.

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Why do we see UFOs frequently but not all the time? It seems like they must be hiding to some extent, but they've still made many appearances over the years. We go through all the explanations we can think of to explain this semi-cautious behavior.

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To some people, this is obvious. To others, it seems unbelievable. In this episode, we explain why we lean heavily toward non-human explanations for UFOs.

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News writers have routinely reported on the Pentagon's careful statements as if they were broad denials. We dig into the details, talk about the legislation that established AARO, and consider how journalists can improve their coverage.

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John's turn to tell you what he thinks!

As we get more information, our views may change, but as of recording, this was our understanding of the phenomenon and situation around it.

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Original Air Date: January 14, 2024

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We figure it's fair to start the show with what we think so far.

As we get more information, our views may change, but as of recording, this was our understanding of the situation. Caleb lays out his takes in the first episode and John follows in the second. 

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Finally, Caleb says the word "militarial" in this episode, and you can rest assured that he feels appropriately stupid about this. 

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Original Air Date: January 9, 2024

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