Karen and Benji and Mann Hunt. Ivan & Red catch up on episodes 4 & 5, where strangers picked to live in an apocalypse stop being polite and start getting real. This episode is all about lessons learned: guard your knees, beware Roxannes, and a heads up on the REAL CIA Conspiracy they WON'T tell you about in school.

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