Yah Lah But

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  • #775 ft. Allen Kuo – What Gold’s Rise Means For Singapore and The World | #775

    There’s been a lot of renewed interest in gold, so we got Allen Kuo, Chief Investment Officer of Singlife, to walk us through everything we need to know about the asset. He goes deep into the philosophy and history of gold, explaining its value as a riskless benchmark, and more poignantly, what its price can tell us about geopolitics today. We also make a detour into 90s nostalgia and shared culture, plus why it’s important to have physical gold in Singapore’s vaults (but not under our beds).

    𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙨𝙤𝙙𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙗𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙗𝙮 𝙇𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙂𝙡𝙤𝙗𝙖𝙡 𝙄𝙣𝙫𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙨
    𝘐𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 1 𝘋𝘦𝘤 2025, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘓𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘎𝘭𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘭 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘗𝘩𝘺𝘴𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘎𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘍𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦’𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘴𝘵 𝘱𝘩𝘺𝘴𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘨𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘧𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘨𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘷𝘢𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘍𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘵 https://yahlahbut.short.gy/LGI-goldfund

    𝘿𝙞𝙨𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢𝙚𝙧 – 𝙇𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙂𝙡𝙤𝙗𝙖𝙡 𝙄𝙣𝙫𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙨 𝙇𝙞𝙢𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙙
    𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘈𝘶𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘐𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘴 𝘢𝘷𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘸𝘸.𝘭𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴.𝘤𝘰𝘮 𝘣𝘦𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘯𝘥.
    𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙁𝙪𝙣𝙙'𝙨 𝙣𝙚𝙩 𝙖𝙨𝙨𝙚𝙩 𝙫𝙖𝙡𝙪𝙚 𝙢𝙖𝙮 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙝𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙫𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙮 𝙙𝙪𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙞𝙩𝙨 𝙣𝙖𝙧𝙧𝙤𝙬𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣𝙫𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙢𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙛𝙤𝙘𝙪𝙨 (𝙥𝙧𝙞𝙢𝙖𝙧𝙞𝙡𝙮 𝙞𝙣 𝙂𝙤𝙡𝙙 (𝙖𝙨 𝙙𝙚𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙙 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙪𝙨)), 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙙𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙩𝙛𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙤𝙨. 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘰𝘭𝘷𝘦 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘱𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥. 𝘓𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘎𝘭𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘭 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴® 𝘓𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 (𝘜𝘌𝘕/ 𝘙𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘕𝘰. 198601745𝘋)

    𝘿𝙞𝙨𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢𝙚𝙧 – 𝙎𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙖𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙇𝙞𝙛𝙚 𝙇𝙩𝙙 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘣𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴, 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯. 𝘈𝘯𝘺 𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘴, 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳(𝘴) 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳(𝘴) 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘰 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘴, 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴, 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘴, 𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘓𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘓𝘵𝘥 𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 (𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦) (𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘺, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 "𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘎𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱"). 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘎𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘱 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘴, 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘴, 𝘰𝘳 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘶𝘢𝘭(𝘴) 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦. 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘰 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘺 𝘰𝘳 𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴, 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘺, 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴, 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘺𝘦𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵 𝘯𝘰 𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘥𝘢𝘮𝘢𝘨𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘴𝘰𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 (𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵, 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘭) 𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘶𝘱𝘰𝘯, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘪𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯/𝘥𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘢𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘪𝘯 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵. 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘱𝘺, 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘦, 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘣𝘶𝘵𝘦, 𝘮𝘰𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘺 𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦.

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    (00:00) Intro
    (03:21) From Math and Physics to Wall Street
    (05:18) What Is a Riskless Asset
    (07:17) Gold vs The US Dollar System
    (09:23) From Gold Standard to Petrodollar
    (12:10) Why Physical Gold Still Matters
    (15:10) Limited Supply and Store of Value
    (17:06) Real Returns vs Nominal Returns
    (19:34) ETFs vs Physically Custodied Gold
    (22:54) Sovereign Risk and Asset Seizures
    (25:18) Generational Views on Risk
    (28:20) Gold Price as Risk Signal
    (29:35) Hype vs Real Value Drivers
    (31:20) Portfolio Strategy and Allocation
    (33:09) Gold as Crisis Hedge
    (35:21) Gold vs Gold Mining Stocks
    (37:06) Culture and Gold Ownership
    (40:28) Trust in Institutions and Markets
    (47:37) Past Gold Surges in History
    (51:50) One Shiok Thing
    (59:24) Post-Interview Reflection

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀

    • TikTok
    • Instagram
    • Facebook

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 5 min
  • #774 ft. Jasmin Lau - THAT TraceTogether “Fiasco”, PSLE Stress & Balancing Parenting with Politics

    Half a year into her sojourn into politics, MP Jasmin Lau joins YLB to discuss parenting tradeoffs, tuition culture, and why policy change is hard in Singapore. She also addresses educational reform, and how online clips can distort public perception - in particular, her recent exchange in Parliament with an opposition MP about the characterization of TraceTogether as a “fiasco”.

    Find Jasmin Lau here!

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    𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗟 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝟮
    Check out the second season of our edutainment podcast that dives into a fascinating array of topics you never knew you needed to know! Last week, we talked about the last kampung in Singapore, and why it’s worth MILLIONS!

    Listen on melisten | Spotify | Apple

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Haresh: Smashsportsco on TikTok
    • Terence: Log 1 | Leaving Singapore 🇸🇬 We bought a boat!
    • MOS Jasmin Lau: "How lucky am I to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard." - Winnie the Pooh

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
    Drop us an email at [email protected]! We’re always looking out for people to do cool stuff with, so let’s chat!

    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) TELL YOU FIRST S2
    (01:20) Intro
    (04:57) Why Voters Want To Know The Real Person
    (08:34) Public Criticism vs Private Encouragement
    (10:57) Are Politicians Performing Roles? Cynicism & Trust
    (15:36) Midfielder vs Shooter — Her Leadership Style
    (18:17) Ambition, Pressure & Private Struggles
    (20:13) What Success Means Beyond Career
    (21:46) Parenting Reality & The Work Life Balance Debate
    (25:01) Tradeoffs — Career Sacrifice vs Family Time
    (30:20) Falling Birth Rates & Meaning Of Parenthood
    (34:28) PSLE Stress & Reframing Results Day
    (37:27) Singapore Education Pressure Culture
    (40:20) Tuition Arms Race & Collective Action Problem
    (44:16) Policy vs Culture — Can Parenting Norms Change?
    (48:13) Her Own Parenting Choices On Tuition
    (52:30) TraceTogether — Crisis Decisions & Public Trust
    (58:40) Privacy, Tradeoffs & Policy Communication Lessons
    (01:12:30) Leadership Under Scrutiny & Public Expectations
    (01:20:20) Jasmin's TraceTogether Remark Explained
    (01:28:50) One Shiok Thing
    (01:35:00) Post-Interview Reflection

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
    TikTok | Instagram | Facebook

    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:

    • TraceTogether incident was not a fiasco that broke public trust: Jasmin Lau | Straits Times

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 41 min
  • #773: PROTECT Yourself from Corporate Scams!

    Scams are getting increasingly common, and we are all at risk. In this episode, we chat with Aaron Chiew, Group Head of Digital Channels, Institutional Banking Group at DBS Bank, who explains why modern scams are less about hacking and more about manipulating trust and routine processes, powered by AI and better “research” on targets. We also explore practical countermeasures companies and employees can use. 

    𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙨𝙤𝙙𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙗𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙗𝙮 𝘿𝘽𝙎 𝘽𝙖𝙣𝙠’𝙨 𝙄𝙣𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙩𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝘽𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙂𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙥.
    𝘼𝘾𝙏 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝙎𝘼𝙁𝙀 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘴.

    𝙎𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘤𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘴
    𝘼𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘺 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘴
    𝙁𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘰𝘧𝘵𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘱𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴
    𝙀𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘮 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘵, 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘴

    𝘍𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘵 yahlahbut.short.gy/DBSScamDefenceForBusinesses

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Terence: Craig David - Fill Me In/7 Days (Jools' Annual Hootenanny 2025)
    • Haresh: The White Lotus | Official Trailer
    • Aaron: Culinary Class Wars: Season 2 | Official Trailer

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
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    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) Intro
    (02:30) Why Businesses Are Prime Scam Targets
    (04:20) How Big the Scam Economy Really Is
    (05:45) Scam Syndicates Operate Like Real Companies
    (07:10) How Scammers Use Your Podcast & Social Media
    (08:35) Voice Cloning, AI & Impersonation Scams
    (10:20) Deepfake Zoom Calls & Corporate Fraud
    (11:50) Is AI Moving Too Fast For Humans?
    (14:05) How Scams Have Evolved Over 10 Years
    (15:40) Salary & Supplier Payment Scams Explained
    (18:00) Why SMEs Are Especially Vulnerable
    (19:30) The Emotional Cost of Being Scammed
    (21:20) Why 30–40 Year Olds Get Scammed Most
    (23:10) When Even Bankers’ Families Get Scammed
    (25:30) Aaron’s Own Scam Story
    (27:40) Haresh & Terence Share Their Scam Encounters
    (29:35) Why Corporate Scam Education Is Harder
    (31:10) Cognitive Breaks & Safe Words
    (33:00) Why Staff Still Fall For Corporate Scams
    (35:10) Why Governments Struggle to Shut Scam Centres
    (36:20) Are Corporates the Next Big Target?
    (38:10) What Finance Teams Should Do Differently
    (40:00) Can We Ever Win The Scam War?
    (41:45) When Singaporeans Become Scammers
    (43:30) Will Scams Ever Really Go Away?
    (45:10) Why We Don’t Answer Phone Calls Anymore
    (46:40) Talking Back To Scammers
    (47:15) Final Thoughts on Trust & Vigilance
    (58:26) One Shiok Thing
    (01:06:06) Post-Interview Reflection

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
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    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 11 min
  • #772 ft. Red Dot Perspective - Does “We First” Include Foreigners & PLB Alleged Cheating Scandal

    Kian Boon from Red Dot Perspective steps in as a guest host to discuss the spiciest topics of the week! First, we break down Gan Kim Yong’s comments at an IPS’ Singapore Perspectives 2026 conference that our “We First” motto could include foreigners. Elsewhere, we cut through the noise of the PropertyLimBrothers alleged cheating scandal that has been living rent-free in Singaporeans’ minds for the past couple of days. What does our obsession with all the details of this scandal say about us as a people?

    Shoutout to Red Dot Perspective!

    • Red Dot Perspective YouTube

    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗸𝗹𝗼𝗿𝘆
    If you’re looking for a meaningful gift, we’d love to help you create a personal podcast for a loved one. Get started at Folklory.com

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Kian Boon: Video about Banjarmasin
    • Terence: Kobe's IMMORTAL 81-PT Performance | 20th Anniversary

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
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    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) Folklory
    (00:40) Intro
    (13:40) Does “We First” Include Foreigners
    (46:18) PLB Alleged Cheating Scandal
    (01:12:41) One Shiok Thing

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
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    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:
    Does “We First” Include Foreigners

    • 'We first' society focuses on a collective instead of individuals, could include foreigners: Gan Kim Yong | CNA
    • S’pore’s fertility rate has not stabilised; citizen core will shrink without action: DPM Gan | Straits Times

    PLB Alleged Cheating Scandal

    • PropertyLimBrothers co-founder & VP removed from company website amid online allegations of cheating | Mothership

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 26 min
  • #771: Singapore’s Myopia Problem For Kids & What Parents Can Actually Do

    Childhood myopia is rising at an alarming rate in Singapore. The good news is it is not inevitable. We sit down with Dr Au Eong Kah Guan to unpack why myopia is so common, why it matters to slow it down early and how parents can take practical, science-backed steps to delay its onset and progression. Dr Au Eong also explains why myopia is increasingly seen as a preventable condition, not just a genetic one.

    Dr Au Eong is Medical Director and Senior Consultant Ophthalmologist at the International Eye Cataract Retina Centre.

    Find out more about how early intervention can protect your child’s long-term eye health →  yahlahbut.short.gy/childhoodmyopia

    𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙨𝙤𝙙𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙗𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙗𝙮 𝙊𝙒𝙉𝘿𝘼𝙔𝙎

    𝘖𝘞𝘕𝘋𝘈𝘠𝘚 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘸𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘑𝘢𝘱𝘢𝘯, 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦 𝘦𝘺𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘤𝘬𝘴, 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 1,500 𝘴𝘵𝘺𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩 𝘧𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘴. 𝘌𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘪𝘳 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘩𝘪𝘨𝘩-𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪-𝘤𝘰𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘴, 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘪𝘯 20 𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴, 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦. 𝘝𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘯𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘖𝘞𝘕𝘋𝘈𝘠𝘚 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦.

    𝘔𝘺𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭 𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘺 𝘴𝘭𝘰𝘸 𝘥𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘮𝘺𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘯. 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘰 yahlahbut.short.gy/OWNDAYS 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘔𝘺𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘢 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭 𝘓𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘴.

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Terence: The Man Who Invented Christmas
    • Haresh: acuppa | Find Home Food Businesses Near You
    • Dr Au Eong: SEA Games 2025: A united Team Singapore deliver record fencing medal haul

    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) Intro
    (02:40) Are School Holidays Peak Season for Eye Problems?
    (03:30) Why Childhood Myopia Is Rising in Singapore
    (05:08) What Myopia Actually Is (And Why Eyeballs Get Longer)
    (07:30) Education, Screens & Singapore’s Myopia Problem
    (12:44) Why Myopia Is More Than “Just Wear Glasses”
    (16:50) Can Myopia Be Managed or Slowed in Children?
    (18:44) Outdoor Time, Screens & Daily Habits That Matter
    (25:09) Evidence-Based Myopia Control Lenses Explained
    (30:12) Contact Lenses, Ortho-K & “Braces for the Eye”
    (40:25) Atropine Eye Drops & Medical Myopia Prevention
    (46:16) Why Early Intervention Changes a Child’s Future
    (51:06) Is Myopia Singapore’s Next Quiet Health Crisis?
    (01:06:51) One Shiok Thing
    (01:11:31) Post-Interview Reflection

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀

    • TikTok
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    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬


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    1 hr 16 min
  • #770: WP Rejects LO Appointment & Students Slam AI-Generated Posters

    WP rejects PM Wong’s request to nominate a new Leader of the Opposition, and PMO says the LO office will stay vacant. Elsewhere, there’s huge backlash over 3 polytechnics using AI-generated open house posters, similar to what PUB did for a campaign poster at Chinatown MRT.

    𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗟 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝟮
    Check out the second season of our edutainment podcast that dives into a fascinating array of topics you never knew you needed to know! This week, we talk about the Koro crisis of 1967, when Singaporeans got into a mass panic about disappearing genitals!!

    Listen on melisten | Spotify | Apple

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Terence: The Earth Laughs in Flowers by Dawn Ng
    • Haresh: Ryanair's Michael O'Leary goads Elon Musk with 'Big "Idiot" Sale'

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
    Drop us an email at [email protected]! We’re always looking out for people to do cool stuff with, so let’s chat!

    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) TELL YOU FIRST S2
    (01:20) Intro
    (03:50) WP Rejects LO Appointment
    (29:30) Students Slam AI-Generated Posters
    (49:45) One Shiok Comment
    (52:00) One Shiok Thing

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
    TikTok | Instagram | Facebook

    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:
    WP Rejects LO Appointment

    • WP rejects PM Wong’s invitation to nominate another elected MP as Leader of the Opposition
    • Government accepts WP's rejection of Leader of the Opposition role, says position to stay vacant for now
    • LO office to remain vacant till WP is ready to nominate someone to take on the responsibility: PMO
    • WP’s swift refusal of LO role signals unity behind Pritam Singh, say analysts

    Students Slam AI-Generated Posters

    • Students question polytechnics’ use of AI in open house publicity materials
    • 'Current sentiment is doom & gloom': PUB poster fuels generative AI debate, creatives uncertain about future

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr
  • #769: Who Should Replace Pritam Singh as LO & Why Trump Wants S’pore on His “Board of Peace”

    Note: This was recorded at 11am on Wed, 21 Jan 2026, before WP’s statement rejecting the LO nomination.

    As the Workers’ Party weighs who should replace Pritam Singh as Leader of the Opposition, Singapore also responds to a surprising US invitation to join Donald Trump’s proposed “Board of Peace”.

    𝙎𝙥𝙤𝙣𝙨𝙤𝙧: 𝙎𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙖𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙄𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙣𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝙁𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 (𝙎𝙄𝙁)
    𝘚𝘐𝘍 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘴, 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘭𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺. 𝘈𝘴 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘪𝘹 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯-𝘣𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘚𝘐𝘍 𝘤𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘺’𝘴 𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘨𝘦, 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘥𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘬𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘈𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘢 𝘕𝘢𝘴𝘪𝘳, 𝘢 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘫𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘺 𝘵𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘢 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘢𝘩 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘢 𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺-𝘸𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘴. 𝘓𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭 𝘦𝘱𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘥𝘦 | yahlahbut.short.gy/764

    𝘊𝘩𝘦𝘤𝘬 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘚𝘐𝘍 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘰 | www.sif.org.sg

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Haresh: Has Trump Achieved a Lot Less Than It Seems? - The Ezra Klein Show
    • Terence: Alex Honnold reveals what it takes to climb Taipei 101

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    (00:00) A Message from SIF
    (01:00) Intro
    (06:27) Who Should Replace Pritam Singh as LO
    (34:11) Why Trump Wants S’pore on His “Board of Peace”
    (53:50) One Shiok Comment
    (55:50) One Shiok Thing

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
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    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:
    Who Should Replace Pritam Singh as LO

    • 2 Sengkang MPs, former Hougang MP to sit on WP disciplinary panel looking into Pritam Singh’s conduct
    • Pritam Singh, Sylvia Lim seen at outreach event as WP deliberates Leader of the Opposition nomination
    • WP 'better off' taking up PM Wong's invitation to name new Leader of the Opposition, say analysts who cite four possible candidates
    • [2018] History of leader of Opposition in S'pore, from LKY to Chiam See Tong and Low Thia Khiang

    Why Trump Wants S’pore on His “Board of Peace”

    • Singapore 'currently assessing' invitation from US to join Trump's 'board of peace'
    • Trump says Board of Peace established to oversee reconstruction of Gaza ‘might’ replace the United Nations
    • Trump’s ‘Board of Peace’ for Gaza to require $1 billion payment for permanent membership
    • 'Let's dream big': US ambassador asks for 'financial contributions' from Singaporean firms for July 4 celebrations
    • US Embassy in Singapore defends Independence Day donation request as standard practice

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 1 min
  • #768: Secrets to Overcoming Self-Doubt & Turning Your Passion Into a Career

    Ruth Saw, an adult professional trainer, reflects on her personal journey of confidence and growth, and how lived experience shaped her approach to learning and leadership. She also discusses why SkillsFuture often faces scepticism, how her own perspective on SkillsFuture changed, and what accredited trainers have to go through that helps separate real capability from just certification.

    𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙨𝙤𝙙𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙗𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙗𝙮 𝙎𝙠𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙨𝙁𝙪𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙎𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙖𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙚.

    𝘊𝘩𝘦𝘤𝘬 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘚𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘴𝘍𝘶𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘢𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘦 | yahlahbut.short.gy/skillsfuturesg

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Haresh: Stranger Things 5 | Official Trailer | Netflix
    • Terence: What Happened to Walt Disney’s Weird Cinema Lens?
    • Ruth: Sora AI

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    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) Intro
    (01:03) Growing Up as a “Third Child” and Searching for Purpose
    (02:20) Leaving Singapore and Starting Over in Australia
    (03:32) Turning 40 and Asking “Is There More?”
    (04:21) Discovering Strengths, Coaching, and Training
    (05:12) Realising Training Gives Energy, Not Burnout
    (06:22) Why Change Is So Hard for Adults
    (07:03) Feeling Unwanted and People-Pleasing Tendencies
    (08:05) Finding Clarity Through Strengths
    (09:48) Living Life Without Using Your Full Potential
    (10:31) Becoming a SkillsFuture-Certified Trainer
    (11:07) Why SkillsFuture Trainers Get a Bad Reputation
    (12:24) Accompanying Her Father to a SkillsFuture Course
    (13:39) Her Father’s Legacy as a Teacher
    (14:43) Choosing to Teach for Singapore
    (15:26) Teaching, Training, and Coming Full Circle
    (16:39) From SkillsFuture Skeptic to Believer
    (17:14) What the Trainer Certification Is Really Like
    (18:00) The Rigor Behind Becoming a SkillsFuture Trainer
    (19:19) Inside the Advanced Certificate in Learning & Performance
    (21:37) How Adult Learning Is Different from School
    (23:04) Training a Mixed Group of Learners
    (25:36) Why Some Bad Trainers Still Exist
    (27:58) Is the Certification Enough to Be a Good Trainer?
    (28:38) Public Criticism vs Life Inside the System
    (30:25) Gaming the Feedback System
    (31:32) How Learners Should Choose Courses Wisely
    (33:02) Is It Fair to Expect Learners to Do Due Diligence?
    (36:18) Ongoing Requirements to Stay Certified
    (38:38) Living Under Constant Evaluation as a Trainer
    (39:21) What Training Taught Her About Herself
    (40:39) Training Different Generations at Work
    (43:25) Why She Loves Teaching and Transformation
    (45:26) Strengths Training That Changed a Work Relationship
    (46:40) Handling Disengaged or Resistant Learners
    (48:38) Is Upskilling Getting an Unfair Bad Rep?
    (49:10) Collecting Certs vs Stepping Into the Arena
    (51:11) Should SkillsFuture Be Harder to Access?
    (53:13) Who Should Actually Become a Trainer?
    (55:44) One Shiok Thing
    (01:00:03) Post-Interview Review

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
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    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
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    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1 hr 4 min
  • #767: Pritam vs Indranee as Parliament Deems Him Unfit as LO & Bayfront MRT Stops Dancers

    Tensions were rife as Parliament backed a motion expressing regret over Pritam Singh’s conduct, deeming him unfit to continue as Leader of the Opposition. Elsewhere, Bayfront MRT frosts mirrors at a popular dance spot.

    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗸𝗹𝗼𝗿𝘆
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    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Terence: Jay Chou bringing the vibes at the AO 1 Point Slam! | Australian Open 2026
    • Haresh: Hozier - Take Me To Church (Pop-Up Show in NYC Subway)

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
    Drop us an email at [email protected]! We’re always looking out for people to do cool stuff with, so let’s chat!

    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) Folklory
    (00:50) Pritam vs Indranee as Parliament Deems Him Unfit as LO
    (01:02:18) Bayfront MRT Stops Dancers
    (01:13:42) One Shiok Comment
    (91:16:31) One Shiok Thing

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
    Reddit | Telegram

    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
    TikTok | Instagram | Facebook

    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:
    Pritam vs Indranee as Parliament Deems Him Unfit as LO

    • Parliament backs motion to express regret at Pritam Singh’s conduct, deem him unfit as Leader of the Opposition
    • Pritam Singh rejects motion against him, says his ‘conscience remains clear’
    • 3 Nominated MPs say Pritam Singh is unsuited to continue as Leader of the Opposition
    • Pritam Singh’s lying ‘not trivial’, strikes at Singaporeans’ trust in parliament: Leader of the House Indranee Rajah
    • 'My conscience remains clear': Workers' Party chief Pritam Singh disagrees his behaviour was dishonourable, unbecoming of an MP

    Bayfront MRT Stops Dancers

    • Mirrors at Bayfront MRT dance hotspot frosted, MBS says it's for pedestrian safety
    • [Sep 2024] ‘No life ah': Netizen complains about dancers in MRT, gets slammed by Internet instead

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    1 hr 22 min
  • #766: PAP’s Jasmin Lau Refutes TraceTogether "Fiasco" & S’porean Challenged by Warner Bros

    MOS Jasmin Lau and WP MP Kenneth Tiong spar in Parliament over an amendment that will allow public sector data to be shared with trusted external partners. Elsewhere, a Singaporean F&B solopreneur in London faces a trademark dispute with Warner Bros over “Crazy Rich” branding.

    𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗟 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝟮
    Check out the second season of our edutainment podcast that dives into a fascinating array of topics you never knew you needed to know! This week, we talk about a dark period in Singapore’s history, when gangs and outlaws ruled its streets. 

    Listen on melisten | Spotify | Apple

    𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗼𝗸 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴

    • Terence: Macclesfield FC (2-1) Crystal Palace
    • Haresh: Has anyone been to the gym lately? - Sebastian Maniscalco

    𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀!
    Drop us an email at [email protected]! We’re always looking out for people to do cool stuff with, so let’s chat!

    𝗦𝘂𝗯𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝘀𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 – "𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝘁”
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    (00:00) TELL YOU FIRST S2
    (01:20) Intro
    (05:47) PAP’s Jasmin Lau Refutes TraceTogether "Fiasco"
    (37:10) S’porean Challenged by Warner Bros
    (50:20) One Shiok Comment
    (53:35) One Shiok Thing

    𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲!
    Reddit | Telegram

    𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀
    TikTok | Instagram | Facebook

    𝗧𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲:
    PAP’s Jasmin Lau Refutes TraceTogether "Fiasco"

    • Bill on sharing of citizen data passed in Parliament amid MPs’ call for safeguards, transparency
    • Law passed allowing public sector data to be shared with ‘trusted external partners’
    • Opening Speech By MOS Jasmin Lau, For Second Reading Of Public Sector (Governance) (Amendment) Bill On 12 January 2026

    S’porean Challenged by Warner Bros

    • Warner Bros disputes S'porean businesswoman's 'Crazy Rich Flavours' trademark
    • Homi Kitchen
    • Yumm Singa on Instagram
    • How Megan Tan started Homi Kitchen, a Singaporean supper club and food brand in London

    𝘔𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘴𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘦
    𝘌𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘠𝘦𝘢𝘬

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    59 min

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A thrice weekly podcast on conversations Singaporeans are having but not saying out loud – politics, culture, identity. Haresh Tilani and Terence Chia consider every side, never quite agree, and never…

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