You Are A Lawyer: Take Risks and Change Careers in Law

At 17 years old, Christine Job said she would live abroad in Spain. And she made it happen. After traveling to numerous countries, Christina made a home in Spain five years ago. She teaches women of color to build businesses abroad to sustain their travels and hosts the Flourish in the Foreign podcast.

Christine Job's Background

Christine Job studied business as an undergrad but needed help figuring out where to use her experience. The economy was terrible in 2009, and Christine needed a job that utilized her new college degree. So Christine took a gap year before she attended law school in Miami. But life outside of law school significantly impacted Christine: Christine she fought for job opportunities, negotiated and split the summer interning in two roles, worked with an entrepreneurial incubator and spent a few months with a startup. Not too bad for someone who didn't want to attend her law school graduation.

What Can You Do With a Law Degree?

As a 1L student, Christine began working as a business consultant and strategist. With her book knowledge from undergrad and advocacy skills from life, Christine met with young entrepreneurs. She helped them identify business models and deal with the stresses of entrepreneurship.

Lawyer Side Hustles

Christine Job believed in being professionally fulfilled and financially well. When she created a home in Valencia, Spain, Christine revived her business strategy and consultancy to encourage her professional fulfillment. Every day, Christine used her experience and passion for building a business abroad and assisting women of color in becoming entrepreneurs.

Additionally, Christine exercises her creativity as the host of the Flourish in the Foreign podcast. On this podcast, Christine speaks with women of color who live abroad and discusses their challenges, successes, and regularness (i.e., taking out the trash and buying groceries) internationally.

Christine Job is not licensed to practice law in the United States or Spain. Learn more about Christine Job:

Website: https://christinejob.com/contact

Books and Resources: https://www.flourishintheforeign.com/resources

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Build a Business Abroad Guide: https://www.flourishintheforeign.com/resources

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Probate lawyers discover the legacy a loved one intended and how to implement that legacy most fairly. Scott Rahn meets clients during emotional and stressful times, but Scott's zealous efficacy allows him to leave his clients in a better position regarding their loved one's estates.

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Scott Rahn's Background

Scott Rahn attended undergrad in his home state of Wisconsin. Still, Scott has yet to make plans to leave sunny California. Although Scott wanted to become a mergers and acquisition lawyer, Scott discovered that he enjoyed probate litigation. Scott Rahn founded RMO Probate Litigation, a nationwide estate litigation firm.

Are Nice Lawyers Successful?Scott did not have to become some loud-talking, arrogant jerk, as most litigators are portrayed, to get results for his clients. Scott Rahn explains that when you work with jerk lawyers, you will pay more and get slower results when clients want to have their problems handled promptly for the least amount of money. You do not need a shark lawyer to receive results.

Lawyer Side HustlesAfter practicing probate litigation for a few years while working for others, Scott Rahn decided to open his law firm, RMO Probate Litigation. RMO has grown and opened five offices nationwide.

Probate law eventually touches every person's life, which is one of the challenges of probate law. Typical scenarios are when someone you know dies if you create a will or trust for yourself. When Scott Rahn became interested in probate litigation, Scott knew that he was ready to help people.

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VIDEO TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - INTRO

00:20 - WELCOME SCOTT RAHN

00:29 - SCOTT'S BACKGROUND

01:20 - MIDWEST LIFE & SPORTS

02:30 - PROBATE LAW AFFECTS EVERYONE

03:30 - INNOVATE PROBATE LAW

07:10 - NATIONWIDE PROBATE LITIGATORS

08:02 - PROBATE LAW & PANDEMIC

09:22 - TRUST ACCOUNTS: PRO & CON

12:37 - YOU ARE A LAWYER PODCAST

12:50 - LAW SCHOOL EXPERIENCE

15:12 - ZEALOUS EFFICACY

17:30 - PREPARE FOR LITIGATION

19:03 - DAY IN THE LIFE

22:34 - POWER OF PROBATE LAW

23:44 - ADVICE FOR NEW LAWYERS

25:30 - OUTRO

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Nick Troxel believes that you can do anything with your legal education if you are willing to work hard. Hard work and sacrifice will allow you to reach your goals, but you must first establish your goals.

In April 2022, Nick bet the Philadelphia Eagles would win Super Bowl LVII. On Sunday, February 11, 2023, the Philadephia Eagles are playing in the Super Bowl, and Nick is traveling to attend the game with his father. This is an example of why flexibility is a big perk to any business owner!

Nick Troxel is not afraid of hard work. When he co-founded the law firm, Troxel Fitch, LLC, he worked as a ride-share driver. Yep, you know the ones. Nick would drive people around to earn money and take that earned money to build his law firm. Nick mentioned eating ramen noodles and many canned foods because every dollar needed to be managed well and used to contribute to their law firm.

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EPISODE TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - INTRO

00:17 - NICK TROXEL

00:41 - SUPER BOWL TRIP

01:02 - ENTREPRENEUR FLEXIBILITY

02:08 - LAW SCHOOL ADMITTANCE

03:19 - TROXEL FITCH FOUNDERS' STORY

05:44 - LAW FIRM TIMELINE

08:08 - GOLDEN HANDCUFFS DISCUSSION

11:31 - WHY INTERESTED IN BUSINESS

13:31 - ADVICE FOR LAW STUDENTS/LAWYERS

15:17 - HOW TO SET GOALS

16:43 - OUTRO

Debra Whitson is a former prosecutor who opened a family law practice to improve the lives and relationships of others. Debra is the founder of a family law firm and a nationwide virtual mediation database.

Debra Whitson's BackgroundDebra Whitson always knew that she would be a lawyer. When she was 14 years old, a hometown tragedy made her begin thinking about the legal system and how she could impact the system.

Lawyer Side HustlesDebra spent half of her legal career working in family law and dealing with divorces, mediation, prenups, etc. These experiences led Debra to write the book, Divorce Like a Pro, where she teaches the reader to divorce with civility and acknowledge how their actions will affect their families.

Debra explains how every state has its own regulations about alternative dispute resolution and that if it is not an option, Debra hopes that mediation can be an option for couples who are dealing with family issues or contemplating divorce.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 - INTRO

00:45 - WELCOME TO YOU ARE A LAWYER

00:35 - DEBRA WHITSON'S CAREER

01:23 - WHY LAW SCHOOL?

02:58 - DEBRA'S EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND

03:43 - SALES AND LAW SCHOOL

05:19 - CRIM LAW TO FAMILY LAW

06:30 - DIVORCE LIKE A PRO

09:45 - MEDITATION IS BENEFICIAL

12:05 - HAVE AN AMICABLE DIVORCE

14:34 - MEDIATION AND COVID

15:15 - YOU ARE A LAWYER PODCAST

15:45 - ZONTA INTERNATIONAL

17:15 - TRAVEL ELIMINATES PREJUDICES

19:08 - ADVICE FOR LAWYERS

21:10 - OUTRO

Cara Davis Little works in employment policy during the day, and plans weddings and podcasts during her free time. In Episode 74, find out how Cara created a career she loves because while Cara can do A LOT, she cannot do it all.

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Cara Davis Little's Background

Cara Davis Little initially went to law school to become a civil rights lawyer. After working in BigLaw (and hating it) Cara decided to work in the public sector. When Cara left BigLaw and began working in the public sector, specifically in employment relations law, Cara began to thrive.

Lawyer Side Hustles

Cara Davis Little was a host of the podcast Millennial Lov3: Sex, Love and I'm Selfish AF! and the first podcaster that Kyla knew. But also, Cara was a young, Black woman who bought a microphone and had the audacity to be vulnerable with the world. Podcasts were still new in 2017 and until the final episode in 2019, the podcast was enjoyed and loved by every millennial who laughed, danced, and understood the podcast.

After planning her own wedding in 2019, Cara missed the organization, planning, and logistics skills needed to plan a wedding. Cara knew that she wanted to take her organization skills and creativity into a new route, so she opened Wimberly & Co. Although Wimberly & Co. is based in Maryland, Cara Davis Little offers wedding planning nationwide, depending on her schedule and the client's needs.

What Can I Do With My Law Degree?

Even though her first jobs out of law school were traditional, boring, high-paying roles, Cara Davis Little is adamant that money is nothing more than a tool. You are not LUCKY to have a job! There is a lot of pressure on first-generation lawyers, like Cara, to be an example for their families or to feel "lucky" to have a job and earn so much money. However, your career (and where you spend a lot of your time) is worth more than a check. Cara believes you should explore your interests before law school and create a career and life that you love… even if that means wedding planning.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 - INTRO

00:23 - Welcome to You Are A Lawyer

01:09 - Kyla and Cara's Friendship

03:02 - Work From Home

03:50 - What is Employment Policy Law?

06:00 - Cara is a Wedding Planner

08:30 - Wedding Planner Bootcamp

09:50 - Is wedding planning back after the pandemic?

10:20 - Challenges of parenthood and working

11:28 - Why is the business called Wimberly & Co.?

12:57 - Entrepreneurship offers flexibility

14:27 - Motherhood and Changing Perspectives

17:11 - Journey & Practice Advertisement

17:35 - Millennial Lov3 Podcast

18:50 - Why did Cara host a podcast?

22:35 - Hue I Do podcast

24:09 - Cara is a podcast expert

25:28 - Law School Taught Confidence & Perseverance

27:18 - Out-of-State Law Student Challenges

29:11 - Shout out to Southern University Law Center

30:08 - Law School right after college?

30:37 - Advice for law students or new lawyers?

32:34 - Money is a tool

33:02 - Formula for a Happy Career

34:38 - Thanks for listening to You Are A Lawyer

35:26 - OUTRO

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Dena Lefkowitz was unhappy working in litigation so she changed firms a few times, before realizing that she needed to get away from this type of practice. Having a more reasonable work life has more of an impact on you than having a ton of money. It took Dena a few years to realize that free time was important and to look towards in-house positions so that she could spend her time how she wanted.

Dena was a lawyer by day and a career coach, thought expert at night for six years. Dena was on a great trajectory, where the only way that she could continue to serve her clients was to leave her full time job. Dena took her side hustle and transitioned it into a full career and founded a career coaching business called Achievement By Design, LLC. As a coach, Dena helps people find careers that respect their values, preferences, and motives. Dena credits her time attending the Michael Baime Eight Week Mindfulness Retreat and working with a career counselor as showing her that she could work in a field that she enjoyed and be financially stable.

Dena Lefkowitz is also the author of Winning In Your Own Court, a book that encourages people to create a successful career without burnout or selling out. This book is a valuable resource for anyone who is interested in changing careers, but unable to work with a career coach. With chapters entitled, Curate Your Career and Honing Your Soft Skills, Dena offers her wisdom and experience as a career coach to the reader.

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Episode Timestamps

00:00 - PODCAST INTRO

01:03 - WELCOME TO YOU ARE A LAWYER

00:33 - DENA'S BACKGROUND

04:01 - LITIGATORS ARE ASSERTIVE

04:57 - ACHIEVEMENT BY DESIGN

05:27 - LEARN DIRECTNESS FROM LAW SCHOOL?

06:46 - TYPICAL DAY AS GENERAL COUNSEL

08:17 - UNDERPAID BUT HAPPY

09:22 - BIG LAW VS IN-HOUSE

10:54 - HIRED A CAREER COACH

11:30 - JOURNEY & PRACTICE AD

12:04 - PERMISSION TO CHANGE CAREERS

14:16 - ORIGIN STORY OF YOU ARE A LAWYER

16:27 - DESPERATION LED TO HIRING CAREER COACH

16:43 - ENJOYED WORKING WITH COACH

18:34 - LAWYER SIDE HUSTLE

19:13 - SALARY CHANGES

20:27 - MOTIVES & VALUES

21:55 - WINNING IN YOUR OWN COURT

25:00 - AVOID DERAILING YOUR CAREER

26:28 - NEVER TOO LATE TO CHANGE CAREERS

27:19 - OUTRO

The You Are A Lawyer Podcast promotes lawyers who make fearless career changes, pursue ambitious side hustles, and create extraordinary lives. More than 70 guests have been interviewed since the podcast began in April 2020 and Kyla Denanyoh is still having fun.

In this bonus episode, Kyla celebrates podcast milestones, and behind-the-scenes details about You Are A Lawyer. This Southern University Law Center graduate is embracing her life as a podcaster and YouTuber and interviewing a Southern University Law Center graduate every podcast season. Send an email if you know the two guests featured in that season.

If you have a cool lawyer side hustle or fearless career change, contact [email protected] and get featured on the You Are A Lawyer podcast.

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EPISODE TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - WELCOME TO YOU ARE A LAWYER

00:09 - 2023 UPDATES

00:53 - LAWYERS ARE RISK TAKERS

01:32 - PODCAST MILESTONE

01:55 - CONSISTENT PODCASTING 02:40 - LAWYERS ARE CREATIVE

03:08 - PODCASTING CHANGED MY LIFE

03:23 - FROM BASEMENT TO CORNER OFFICE

04:17 - YOU ARE A LAWYER PODCAST

05:18 - LAW SCHOOL SHOUTOUT

05:48 - OUT OF COMFORT ZONE

06:57 - LEGAL YOUTUBE VIDEOS

07:32 - SUBSCRIBE TO PODCAST

08:04 - WHY HUMANIZE LAWYERS

08:57 - CONTACT KYLA

09:06 - ARE LAWYERS COOL?

09:15 - OUTRO

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Lawyers can do anything.

Every week, Kyla Denanyoh interviews a game-changing lawyer to discuss how their legal education impacts their life. Because whether you're working as an artist, tech investor, yogi, or blogger, if you've graduated from law school, YOU ARE A LAWYER.

By sharing their experiences during and after law school, podcast guests expose how law school promotes competition and perfectionism and their creativity and talents are often hidden. Until now.

You Are A Lawyer promotes lawyers and law school graduates with exciting hobbies, interests, and career changes. This podcast will motivate you to start that side hustle, challenge you to find a nontraditional career, and push you to embrace the hobby that you've been hiding.

So ask yourself, are you an ambitious lawyer who is limited in their career? A law student who daydreams about impacting the world? Did you struggle with the bar exam and now you're bored with the law?

You Are A Lawyer will remind you that your law degree is valuable wherever you are and whatever you are doing. Join the email list and get introduced to more fearless lawyers every week.

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Sabrina Thompson didn't enjoy her immigration law class and was happy to discover crimmigration law (criminal defense + immigration representation) to advocate for immigrants. Find out how traffic law intersects with crimmigration law in Episode 72 of You Are A Lawyer.

Crimmigration law is an intriguing combination of criminal defense and immigration law and Sabrina Thompson loves it. As the daughter of immigrants (from St. Kitts and Haiti) Sabrina grew up understanding the challenges of immigrants and wanting to advocate for them.

After interning in prosecution offices, a criminal defense law clinic at Howard University Law School changed everything for Sabrina.

After working in the public defender's office for five years, Sabrina opened her own law firm where she specialized in criminal defense, immigration, and traffic law. Yes, there is a space for this kind of law (often called crimmigration law) and immigrants face large challenges in the criminal justice system.

Find out why Sabrina loved practicing law and whether she enjoys writing more than being in court.

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EPISODE TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - INTRO

00:22 - INTRODUCING SABRINA THOMPSON

02:22 - CRIMMIGRATION LAW

03:45 - WHY DEFEND IMMIGRANTS

04:34 - IMMIGRATION POLICIES

05:31 - AWARDS FROM PRACTICING LAW

05:55 - TRAFFIC LAW

06:41 - LAWYERS SOLVE PROBLEMS

07:08 - WHY BE A LAWYER

07:50 - BE A ZEALOUS ADVOCATE

08:07 - LAWYER PERSONALITY

08:34 - ANY WRITING SKILLS?

09:28 - PUBLIC SPEAKING VS WRITING

09:41 - LAW SCHOOL EXPERIENCES

10:38 - PROSECUTION INTERNSHIPS

11:18 - SAME PRACTICE AREA

12:08 - SELF CARE TIPS

13:02 - DISTRACTING KIDS

13:58 - CITIZEN OF THE WORLD

15:02 - PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE LAWYERS

15:41 - PROUD OF LAW DEGREE

16:43 - FAVORITE COURT

17:44 - SCOTUS VISITS

18:33 - ADVICE FOR LAW STUDENTS

19:31 - WORK FOR YOURSELF

20:36 - BONUS! DOES KYLA PRACTICE LAW?

21:15 - BONUS! WHY NOT PRACTICE?

21:55 - BAR EXAM CHALLENGES

23:01 - OUTRO

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Sabrina Thompson is licensed to practice law in state court in Maryland, District Court, and the Supreme Court of the United States. Learn more about the Thompson Legal Group Get involved with Justis Connection: https://www.justisconnection.com/

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Dana Shaker believes that your legal practice can be improved when you improve your mental health. Why? Because participating in community-based activities, like yoga and journaling, allows lawyers to reflect on their journeys and better serve their clients. How? Because Dana Shaker did it first and it works!

After failing the bar exam, Dana had some tough conversations with herself about whether the stress and anxiety of taking the bar exam were worth the damage it caused her. When Dana decided that the would take the bar exam again, Dana knew that she needed to make some major changes during this second experience. This was when Dana dusted off her yoga mat.

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Initially discovering yoga as a competitive swimmer in college, Dana enjoyed the practice and the benefits it had for her body. But would Dana have time to practice yoga while memorizing statutes for the bar exam? Yes. She had to.

Journey and Practice offers the Heart-Centered Lawyers membership, a community of lawyers who participate in coffee chats, group yoga sessions, journaling activities, and more to connect with each other and improve their journey and practice.

Dana explains that we "go on an inward journey, find out more about yourself and practice what you have learned [in law], as well as practicing yoga." Because being a lawyer is a journey and practice and yoga is a journey and practice.

Now, in addition to being a certified yoga and policy consultant, Dana Shaker is a third-generation law firm owner.

Don't call this a comeback or remix, Episode 71 will remind you that taking time for yourself will allow you to better serve others.

Practicing law is a journey and yoga is a practice. Dana Shaker cares about how your yoga practice impacts your legal practice, bar studying, and overall mental health.

NOTE: Always consult with a medical professional or your doctor before beginning any new exercise regimens.

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EPISODE TIMESTAMPS

VIDEO CHAPTERS

00:00 - INTRO

00:13 - WELCOME TO YOU ARE A LAWYER

00:38 - FOLLOW-UP RECORDING

01:31 - WELCOME DANA SHAKER

02:06 - DANA'S BACKGROUND

02:48 - JOURNEY & PRACTICE

04:15 - YOGA PRACTICE

05:45 - SPOILER ALERT!

06:39 - DIFFERENT YOGA STYLES

08:45 - 8 DIFF YOGA STYLES

09:40 - CLIPS FROM YOGA CLASSES

11:40 - WHO TRAINED YOGI DANA

14:28 - ENERGY VARIES AFTER YOGA

15:15 - SPOILER ALERT!

16:40 - BE PRESENT FOR YOGA

17:32 - DANA IS ORGANIZED

20:30 - TIME MANAGEMENT TIPS

21:02 - VIRTUAL RECORDING TIPS

22:11 - CHANGES IN YOGA?

24:14 - YOGIS ARE FOCUSED

25:59 - HEART-CENTERED LAWYERS

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