You Are A Lawyer: Take Risks and Change Careers in Law

Kristyan Gilmore is an attorney, professor, consultant, and founder of To Be Free, a business advisory company focused on helping entrepreneurs align their work with their values. In this episode, Kristyan shares how the 2008 financial crisis reshaped her legal career, why she believes lawyers should “find their voice,” and how she built a life centered on freedom, teaching, and creative entrepreneurship. 

Lawyer Side Hustles

Kristyan’s consulting business, To Be Free, helps entrepreneurs streamline operations, clarify their mission and values, and create businesses that support both impact and freedom. She works primarily with creatives, nonprofit leaders, and mission-driven founders who want to spend less time buried in backend operations and more time focused on the work they actually care about.

Her work is deeply personal. Inspired by watching her entrepreneurial parents struggle financially despite being creative and community-driven, Kristyan built a business focused on helping people avoid burnout while still making meaningful contributions. Through automation, systems, and strategic advising, she helps clients create businesses that align with who they really are instead of simply surviving inside systems that exhaust them. 

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Patrick Jester is a metrology consultant, law school graduate, and JD Advantage professional who built a meaningful career outside traditional legal practice after facing repeated bar exam setbacks. In this episode, he shares how he navigated disappointment, trusted the process, and created a path that aligned with his skills, faith, and long-term vision.  

Lawyer Side Hustles

Beyond his primary career, Patrick has remained committed to causes that originally drew him to law school, including advocacy work related to foster care. While his professional path shifted, his underlying motivations, helping people and contributing to meaningful systems, did not disappear. Instead, they evolved alongside his career.

Patrick also speaks openly about the emotional and mental journey that came with redefining his career. Through mentorship, leadership roles in professional organizations, and sharing his story, he contributes to a broader conversation about resilience and non-linear success. His work outside traditional practice reflects a deeper truth: fulfillment often comes not from following a prescribed path, but from staying aligned with your values even when the path changes. 

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Patrick Jester is a metrology consultant, law school graduate, and JD Advantage professional who built a meaningful career outside traditional legal practice after facing repeated bar exam setbacks. In this episode, he shares how he navigated disappointment, trusted the process, and created a path that aligned with his skills, faith, and long-term vision.  

Lawyer Side Hustles
Beyond his primary career, Patrick has remained committed to causes that originally drew him to law school, including advocacy work related to foster care. While his professional path shifted, his underlying motivations, helping people and contributing to meaningful systems, did not disappear. Instead, they evolved alongside his career.

Patrick also speaks openly about the emotional and mental journey that came with redefining his career. Through mentorship, leadership roles in professional organizations, and sharing his story, he contributes to a broader conversation about resilience and non-linear success. His work outside traditional practice reflects a deeper truth: fulfillment often comes not from following a prescribed path, but from staying aligned with your values even when the path changes. 

Elaine Lee is a lawyer, travel journalist, and author of Go Girl: The Black Woman’s Book of Travel and Adventure. In this episode, Elaine shares how she built a legal career rooted in civil rights work, how a trip to Paris changed the trajectory of her life, and how she designed a lifestyle that allows her to travel the world while still using her law degree. 

Lawyer Side Hustles

Elaine’s “side hustle” became her calling. After traveling the world, she pursued travel writing at a time when there were few, if any, examples of Black women doing that work. When traditional publishing avenues did not open, she created her own opportunity by developing an anthology featuring well-known Black women writers. 

Her work now centers on storytelling, global citizenship, and empowering women to see the world. Through her books, including Go Girl, she encourages others to travel, explore, and expand their sense of what is possible. Law remains part of her life, but it supports a broader purpose rooted in joy and connection. 

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Anne Marie Engel is a lawyer, fractional general counsel, and self-described accountability architect. In this episode, Anne Marie shares how her 30-year legal career led her to rethink the role of lawyers in business, why accountability and fiduciary duty are being lost in the profession, and how she now helps companies prevent problems before they start.

Lawyer Side Hustles

Anne Marie’s current work as an accountability architect and fractional general counsel brings all of her experience together into one model. She works with businesses to audit their legal structures, build systems, and create processes that reduce risk while supporting growth. Instead of acting as a traditional outside lawyer, she steps in as a partner who helps leaders understand what their legal function should actually be doing.

Her work focuses on structure, clarity, and accountability. She helps companies move away from reactive legal strategies and toward intentional systems that support their goals. It is less about solving isolated problems and more about building a foundation that prevents them.

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Sean Olson is a trial lawyer and founder of Olson Law Firm in Colorado. In this episode, Sean shares how he transitioned from journalism into law, built a personal injury firm from a solo practice into a growing team, and why he still makes time for the courtroom even as a CEO.

Lawyer Side Hustles

What started as a solo practice eventually became Olson Law Firm, a growing personal injury firm with multiple attorneys and a full support staff. Sean built the firm by continuously learning, investing in himself, and developing skills beyond traditional legal work, including marketing, business operations, and leadership.

That growth required humility and adaptability. Sean spent years attending conferences, reading, and refining his approach to both law and business. His work today reflects that evolution. He is not just practicing law. He is building systems, leading people, and creating opportunities for others within his firm.

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Caroline Vickers is an attorney, entrepreneur, and founder of Bar Prep Champs, where she coaches first time and repeat bar takers to pass the exam with strategy and confidence. In this episode, Caroline shares how her own law school experience shaped her career, why mindset is the missing piece in bar prep, and how she built a business helping lawyers overcome shame and finally pass.

What Can You Do with a Law Degree

Caroline’s legal career included clerking for multiple judges, working in private practice, nonprofit work, and federal government service. She had the credentials. She had the licenses in Maryland and DC. She had the traditional path. But as she began helping friends study for the bar while working as a law clerk, something clicked. She saw a pattern in repeat takers that was not about intellect.

Her law degree gave her credibility, but more importantly, it gave her perspective. She understood how law students think, how lawyers internalize failure, and how ego and shame can derail performance. Instead of staying inside the courtroom, she chose to build something that addresses the emotional and strategic gaps law school leaves behind. Her JD did not limit her to practice. It equipped her to coach at scale.

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Aman Costigan is a former law firm partner, life strategist, yoga teacher, podcaster, and financial independence advocate. In this episode, Aman shares why she left the law from a place of happiness and completion, how she and her husband planned their exits strategically, and why financial literacy is the key to career freedom.

Lawyer Side Hustles

Today, Aman introduces herself as a life strategist, vision board workshop leader, podcaster, and tarot reader. She works one on one with high achieving women to turn ideas into execution through planning, accountability, and strategic prioritization.

She also runs The Sisterhood, a yearly program where women turn vision boards into lived reality. For Aman, strategy and intuition coexist. Planning and manifestation coexist. Law was one skillset. Execution is another. And she continues to build, speak, teach, and create on her own terms.

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Victoria Inoyo is the Director of Advising at Juris Education, an edtech platform advising students toward careers in law, and a lawyer working in business affairs and creative marketing at Apple. In this episode, Victoria shares how she navigated law school as a first generation American, why she chose the creative side of the legal industry, and how she now helps aspiring lawyers “take the elevator” instead of the stairs through the admissions process.

Lawyer Side Hustles

In addition to her work in business affairs, Victoria serves as the Director of Advising at Juris Education, an edtech platform advising students toward careers in law. The platform supports applicants nationwide and internationally through every stage of the admissions process.

She sees mentorship as a way to close information gaps and reduce unnecessary stress. By helping students identify their goals early and understand the full spectrum of legal career options, she is building access and confidence for the next generation of lawyers.

This episode is produced by Skip the Boring Stuff, a podcast strategy company for business owners and creatives.

Kyla Denanyoh shares six key aspects of being a podcast host, emphasizing the power and control that comes with managing a show, the importance of streamlining processes, the freedom to choose guests, the potential for monetization, and the transformative impact podcasting can have on one's life and career. The discussion highlights the tools (Honeybook) and strategies that can make podcasting easier and more effective, ultimately encouraging others to embrace the medium.

Celebrate six years of podcasting with Kyla Denanyoh!

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