Most fab shops talk about culture. Marc and Mike Goodhart had to rebuild theirs.

From stepping into a fifth-generation family business… to confronting the hard truth that you can't "muscle" your way into leadership… to reshaping a 90-year-old company around accountability, clarity, and people—the Goodhart brothers' story is a blueprint for every shop trying to build something that lasts.

In this episode, Marc and Mike open up about the real work behind succession, culture, profit-sharing, next-gen recruiting, and running a family business with honesty and humility. Their insights are raw, practical, and grounded in decades of lessons learned the hard way.

It's not just about fabrication. It's about building a shop people are proud to be part of.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• Why leadership in a family business must be earned, not inherited

• How to rebuild culture by simplifying values and setting expectations

• The surprising reason employees want family succession

• How Goodhart Sons partners with schools to attract the next generation

• Why dignity matters—even when letting someone go

• How profit-sharing creates ownership and stability for shop-floor workers

• What it takes to sustain a 90-year legacy in a modern industry

03:30 – The Goodhart Legacy: How a 90-year-old fab shop survives into Gen4 and Gen5. 05:50 – Earning Your Place: Why ownership in a family business must be earned, not inherited. 11:47 – Next-Gen Recruiting: How Goodhart Sons partners with schools to attract young talent. 20:23 – Firing With Dignity: The philosophy behind treating people well—even on the way out. 26:08 – Profit Sharing Explained: How their compensation model protects jobs and builds loyalty. 29:12 – Culture Simplified: Turning 12 legacy objectives into a modern, memorable culture system.

Resources:

Join our Facebook Group for conversations that will help grow your business: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1Dspnz4Qt5/ Connect with Goodhart Sons on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/goodhart-sons-inc/ Goodhart Sons Website: https://www.goodhartsons.com/ Lights Out Podcast: https://makingchips.com/show/lights-out/ Buy the Numbers Podcast: https://makingchips.com/show/buy-the-numbers/