You Seem Fine Podcast

The Season Finale is here! This episode we explore perfectionism and the sneaky ways it shows up in our lives. Perfectionism is a personality trait characterized by a relentless pursuit of flawlessness and high standards. It can manifest as self-motivation and drive to achieve success, but often leads to anxiety & low self-worth when standards aren't met. Time to get to the bottom of the "good enough's" and kick obligation to curb 'cause imperfect is the new perfect.

00:00- Opening

00:13- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:19- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:53- Roland's Explanation

02:33- Stay true to yourself!

02:41- Hannah's Swiftie Song

03:09- Hannah's Explanation

03:25- Maladaptive Daydreaming

05:03- Hot Take Intro

05:10- Perfectionism!

05:41- Definition of Perfectionism

05:54- 3 Kinds of Perfectionism

06:10- Self Oriented/Socially Prescribed/Other Oriented

07:50- Nuance is helpful to differentiate

08:17- Inability to release control

08:56- Hannah's Hot Take

09:30- Image we want, we project on others

10:26- Society Gives Us Sense of Perfection

11:45- Perfectionism is mix of Nature & Nurture

12:38- What of the 3 Kind's Is Hannah's Hot Take?

12:51- Socially Prescribed

14:14- Roland's Hot Take

15:45- Never-ending Feedback Loop

16:02- Perfectionism Breeds Failure

17:02- Imperfect is learning

18:38- The HOW is important

19:30- Perfectionism Erodes Society

20:50- Checking & Re-Checking

21:08- Chronic Procrastination

22:40- Research Attacks the Pod

23:18- Swap Perfect for Done

23:59- Good Enough Reps

26:07- Schedule Rest

27:06- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

27:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

27:34- Dishes as a Good Enough Rep

29:29- Goal of an Aha! Moment

29:45- Using Obligation/Contract Verbiage to Challenge

31:04- Take Back Control

32:13- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

32:25- Overwhelmed Achiever Overlap

32:55- Empowerment & Reinvention

34:21- Self-Imposed High

35:04- Inner Child Work

35:18- CBT

37:06- Safe with Emotions

38:35- Under the Cushion (Roland)

38:45- Grades Were Important (GT/AP Kid)

40:24- Challenged Perfectionism

42:07- Would Not Classify Perfectionism Out loud

42:50- We're Frenemies!

42:55- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

43:36- Grew Up Thinking of Failure

43:58- Perfectionism & Imposter Syndrome

44:33- Other Oriented

46:08- Unfairness of Expectations

48:18- Not Assigning the Emotional Piece

50:28- Other Oriented Feels Helpless

50:38- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

This Episode is certainly the fairest of them all! Hannah and Roland sit down to discuss Narcissism. Narcissism is commonly referred to as a personality trait characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. And, surprise! Hannah and Roland have the same Hot Take! Whether it's identifying the gaslighting, demystifying the buzzwords, or beating a tiktoker over the head with the DSM, put down the poison apple and pay attention. Call it vain, maybe even call it arrogant, but we KNOW you'll want to hear this.

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal Disclosure

00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:23- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:37- Roland's Explanation

02:45- Verbiage is Important; no wasted time

04:28- Compartmentalization

04:44- Hannah's Swiftie Song

05:32- Hannah's Explanation

06:08- Working through monotony

07:13- Hopeful in the Mud

07:16- Hot Take Intro

07:23- Narcissism

07:31- Trigger Warning

08:35- Narcissist Label Can Only Be Used by Mental Health Professional

10:00- Hannah & Roland Have the same Hot Take!

10:36- No Normalizing Narcissism

12:21- Narcissism is not a giant spectrum

12:54- Narcissistic Personality Disorder/DSM Diagnosis

14:13- Frequency is Important to Notice

15:01- Selfishness/Arrogance is Conflated to Narcissism

15:45- Grandiosity is the keyword

16:40- Narcissism Buzzwords

17:54- Maladaptive, not just attention seeking

19:29- Need to be seen vs. Who Should See Me?

20:51- Manipulation

21:05- Gaslighting

23:29- Gaslighting is always pointed

24:57- Psychological Dominance

26:38- Again, NPD Only Be Used By Mental Health Professionals!

27:26- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

27:31- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

28:30- Psychoeducation Soapbox; Add Tendencies After

30:03- Compassion & Empathy

31:05- Recovery from Narcissistic Abuse

32:45- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:15- Comorbidities & Differentials

34:04- Covert NPD or BPD?!

35:18- Therapy Wise- Confrontation is good

37:24- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

38:01- Gray Rocking

39:57- Better to Regulate Self than Fuel Fire

40:13- Under the Cushion (Roland)

40:26- Quiet Undertaking

41:24- Remove Self Before Falling Prey

42:40- Code Speech

43:35- Duty to Report Only Caveat

43:51- Outro

**This podcast does not serve as Mental Health Therapy with a Licensed Professional. This podcast is for educational purposes only. If topics from the podcast resonate with you, we recommend consulting a mental health provider for tailored support.

Join Hannah and Roland—along with special guest Megan Anderson—as they explore the world and uncover the mental health benefits of travel. From reigniting creativity to finding your environmental reset, discover how immersion sparks personal growth. This journey is packed with insights. Buckle up—new horizons await, and you won’t want to miss it.

00:00- Opening

00:14- Legal Disclosure

00:43- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

00:53- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:27- Roland's Explanation

03:14- Hannah's Swiftie Song

03:35- Hannah's Explanation

07:10- Uh-oh, Reality Therapy Roland Showed Up

10:08- Hot Take Intro

10:15- Travel & Mental Health!

10:28- Guest Megan Anderson Speaks!

11:13- Travel is Self Care & Prevents Burnout

12:19- 45 COUNTRIES?! 5 CONTINENTS?!

16:18- Megan's Hot Take

16:55- Travel is a Source to Reignite Creativity

18:45- Travel is a Step Back & Peace

20:08- Roland's Hot Take

20:45- Environmental Reset is Important to Re-Center

22:44- Megan's Travel Story

23:43- Megan's Travel Quote

25:45- Travel Became Growth

25:58- Hannah's Hot Take

28:40- Being Immersed is Key

29:35- Uncomfortable with the Comfortable

30:25- Similarly on Smaller Scales is ALSO important

33:21- Being Present & Safe

36:15- Intention is the Anchor

40:20- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

40:28- Behind the Couch (Roland)

42:33- Ask Where Client's Have Always Wanted to Go?

43:33- Always Ask Within Means

44:19- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

45:19- Discuss skills alongside travel stories

47:18- Values & Problem Solving & Curiosity

49:45- Under the Cushion (Roland)

50:28- First Vacation Ever? 17 yrs old!

52:08- True Experience of Travel (Mind Blowing)

53:06- Creative Reset & Gob smacked Feeling

53:51- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

54:00- 2 years old was first flight~

54:30- Mystery Rides!

56:29- Spring Breaks All Over

58:44- Broaden Tools through other cultures

01:01:47- Outro

I swear he's all panic, and definitely no disco. Get your straighteners, cheap CVS black hair dye, and be ready for Warped Tour. Roland Scheppske is bringing the heat this week on You Seem Fine Podcast with his turn in the hot seat. You may need to flip your bangs some or let out a scream while Roland talks about grief in day-to-day life, or the idea of a more holistic approach to mental health that he dubs as full body. In fact, be ready for a full rant on what this would look like if all medical, mental, and health professions just shared a little more knowledge with one another.

00:00- Opening

00:18- Legal Disclosure

00:47- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

00:58- Hannah's Swiftie Song

01:20- Hannah's Explanation

03:35- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:57- Roland's Explanation

05:50- Hot Seat Intro

06:12- What's New?!

06:28- First Acceptance Speech!

07:11- New Weekly Blog!

08:00- Practice Update

09:20- Counselor, how? When?

09:45- PTSD Veterans

10:55- Art School instead?!

12:12- Hannah & Roland have history~

14:15- Hardest thing learned as a therapist

17:20- Comradery in Dual Relationships w/ Boundaries

19:45- Boundaries & Ethics

22:00- No Compromise; Be open & talk

23:00- Roland as a Client

24:10- Nurture can be Damaging

25:35- Vulnerability

29:00- Hot Take #1

29:28- Grief is any loss

30:12- Grief is Complex

32:45- Small Griefs are Impactful

35:40- Acknowledgement & Acceptance

37:35- Hot Take #2

39:00- Full Body Experience

39:40- Mainstream & Cross Specialties

42:00- Herbalism, Massage, Acupuncture

44:10- Limited Knowledge

48:15- Medical Community & Resources

49:12- Changes in School Curriculum

53:26- Changes in best practice

53:50- INNER CHILD?! HANNAH WHY!?

55:39- The Body here in the present is most important

58:38- Outro

Imposter Syndrome? You mean that thing that everyone experiences where we think we're not good enough? Where we think we aren't doing the things we're supposed to be doing despite evidence to the contrary? You mean a Millennials biggest enemy? Yes, that Imposter Syndrome. Or, in other words, the persistent inability to believe that one's success is deserved or has been legitimately achieved as a result of one's own efforts or skills. Join Hannah and Roland alongside today's special guest, Sydney Smedley, LPC as they discuss the in's and out's of what it's like to battle against OR use to your advantage all parts of the imposter.

Carmen Sandiego, who? She's got nothing on Hannah Shahabi and all the stamps in her passport! The podcast turns up the heat and has our resident messy millennial in the hot seat not only to get some further insight in who she is and how she got here, but also some deeper and more personal hot takes that aren't part of our regularly scheduled program. Whether it's Hannah's niche love of working with the Overwhelmed Achiever, her take on Emotional Intelligence vs. Maturity, or perhaps one you all can imagine make's Roland bounce in his seat a little: the chronic nature of societal trauma---it's time to TRULY get to know Hannah Shahabi, LPC.

In the immortal, yet possibly problematic, words of Kate Moss, "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels". Diet culture, what healthy means, and the perception & need to be skinny by any means necessary has been a trope and trend for decades. This week, Hannah and Roland discuss the mental health around diet culture alongside Metabolic Health & Fitness Coach Taylor Trost (@fitnfoodwithtaylor on Instagram). Particularly, they discuss the uprising trend of Semaglutides, commonly known as Ozempic, what it does to the body, the brain, and some controversial research going on in the field of physical & mental health. What's the good, the bad, and the ugly of it all? Well they're here to give you the skinny on it.

TW: This Episode discusses eating disorders, ozempic trends, and emotional health related topics.

00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:20- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:35- Hannah's Explanation

05:08- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:40- Roland's Explanation

07:27- Hot Take Intro

07:33- Diet Culture

07:46- Taylor's Intro

08:48- Taylor's Hot Take

09:06- Diet Trends

10:40- What is Ozempic?

11:53- Side Effects

13:25- Coaching & Ozempic

15:05- A Plan in Place

17:05- Hannah's Hot Take

18:24- Perpetuating "Skinny Girl" Trope

19:34- Redefining Health

20:15- Eating Disorders

24:10- Self Worth & Value

24:38- Roland's Hot Take

26:05- Semaglutide & Depression

29:13- Obesity is now a Disease?!

33:10- Where to find Taylor!?

34:07- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

35:15- Physical + Mental + Emotional

36:25- Voice & Verbiage

38:00- Comfortability in PME

38:20- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:00- Disordered Eating vs Eating Disorders

40:00- Meaning Making & Redefinition

41:10- Desperation for Change

41:55- Autonomy & Age & Control

42:40- Under the Cushion (Roland)

43:11- Control of Self vs Control of World

43:40- "Pride" in Skinny

44:26- Remembering to Enjoy Things

45:11- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

45:53- "Earning" Junk Food

46:18- Clean Plate Mentality

47:23- Mindful Eating

48:08- Autoimmune Disease

49:32- Doctors/Medical Shame

53:48- Mindfulness & Health

55:24- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Hey baby, what's your sign? Hannah and Roland look to the stars this week in order to discuss just how deeply a horoscope can mean not only to them, but to anyone interested as well. Horoscopes have been around for a millennia, first appearing in the Mediterranean region sometime around the late 2nd or 1st century BCE. The word "horoscope" comes from the Greek words "horos", meaning "hour", and "skopos", meaning "observer". Join Hannah and Roland as they discuss horoscopes relation to religion, how in depth your horoscope & birth chart can really go, its place, if any, in the therapeutic process, and if these two Scorpio's truly do sting.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

This week, Hannah and Roland have their first guest on the podcast! Lily Shahabi, a consultant based in Boston, and Hannah's sister! Lily has struggled with this week's subject, joins to uniquely discuss how she handles life with High Functioning Anxiety. High-functioning anxiety refers to individuals who experience anxiety symptoms while maintaining a high level of functionality in various aspects of their lives. They may appear successful and put-together externally, but internally struggle with feelings of stress, self-doubt, and fear. Quite frankly, that sounds like your average millennial if you ask us...

TW: Discussion on Eating Disorders, Disordered Eating, Ozempic Trends, and Health related topics.

00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:20- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:35- Hannah's Explanation

05:08- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:40- Roland's Explanation

07:27- Hot Take Intro

07:33- Diet Culture

07:46- Taylor's Intro

08:48- Taylor's Hot Take

09:06- Diet Trends

10:40- What is Ozempic?

11:53- Side Effects

13:25- Coaching & Ozempic

15:05- A Plan in Place

17:05- Hannah's Hot Take

18:24- Perpetuating "Skinny Girl" Trope

19:34- Redefining Health

20:15- Eating Disorders

24:10- Self Worth & Value

24:38- Roland's Hot Take

26:05- Semaglutide & Depression

29:13- Obesity is now a Disease?!

33:10- Where to find Taylor!?

34:07- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

35:15- Physical + Mental + Emotional

36:25- Voice & Verbiage

38:00- Comfortability in PME

38:20- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:00- Disordered Eating vs Eating Disorders

40:00- Meaning Making & Redefinition

41:10- Desperation for Change

41:55- Autonomy & Age & Control

42:40- Under the Cushion (Roland)

43:11- Control of Self vs Control of World

43:40- "Pride" in Skinny

44:26- Remembering to Enjoy Things

45:11- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

45:53- "Earning" Junk Food

46:18- Clean Plate Mentality

47:23- Mindful Eating

48:08- Autoimmune Disease

49:32- Doctors/Medical Shame

53:48- Mindfulness & Health

55:24- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Season 2?! Already? Join Hannah and Roland as they kick off the start of season two as they revisit the podcasts namesake--Fine. Discussing the origins of the word Fine as well as how the meaning of the word has changed and been reinvented over time, Hannah and Roland discuss how they each use the word themselves and how they see others, particularly their clients, fall into the trap and mundane use of the word. Whether you feel f*cked up, insecure, neurotic, or emotional, tune in as two millennial licensed professional counselors try and see if they can't reinvent the word yet again. Welcome back!

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland continue to develop hot take after hot take on a wide array of therapy topics, buzzword media phenomena, and pop culture. It's these discussions that help fuel their millennial hearts and spun this podcast into a continued existential crisis of a reality. Very on brand, right? With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland continue to express their thoughts and want to appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality. It is forever their goal for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*