Mark and Pat open the show by talking about how they met many years ago while working on Shop Till You Drop together. Pat goes on to talk about buying a radio station and the support he gave to Mark when he was starting out. Mark and Pat then get into a conversation about the power of intention and how fear can affect it. After that, Mark asks Pat about his company Rubicon Results Institute, which helps empower people to operate at their highest potential. This leads to an interesting discussion about procrastination and how to overcome it. Before they wrap, Mark and Pat talk about the importance of feeling uncomfortable vs familiar.

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