My guest this week is the Pop Music Critic for The New York Times, Jon Caramanica.

From Eminem to Taylor Swift, Jon has written about, interviewed, and in some cases, even been the first in the industry to break.

He’s the guy who writes like it's a "hot take" but knows so much and is such an expert on his subject it's not.

We talk about music, fashion, the contrast in their businesses, and how criticism is art and an art form unto itself.

Follow Jon on Twitter NOTES

• Taylor Swift Article
• Jon's pieces from The NYT
• NYT Pop Cast

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