We're baaaaaack from spring hiatus and in this installment, Natalie Gill-Mensah is joining us to have an extra vulnerable conversation about family planning over 40, the daily frustrations of dealing with elderly parents, and how she manages to raise children and keep her marriage afloat while living abroad.

**** Natalie also joined us on the newest installment of our aftershow, "The Ride Home" available exclusively on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/bluecentric

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