John McAfee is a British-American programmer, businessman and Libertarian Party candidate for President of the United States. He founded the software company McAfee Associates in 1987, which achieved success as creators of the first commercial antivirus software.

We discuss his personal story and have an impassioned debate about morality and its foundations. Do 'right' and 'wrong' truly exist? Or is everything just subjective? Do we even need laws? We share our different perspectives.

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