Here’s Episode 105 of Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to watch live and join in the lively conversation on this episode. We’re also on YouTube, and as a podcast on Apple, Google and Spotify.

It's the start of the third year of this project, and in this conversation we return together to the topic of human relationship. Our big mistake, Justin says, is our insistence on treating ourselves as objects. When we do this, we are left with little room but to demand that we be a certain way, and the ones we love be a certain way - a way that we will inevitably fall short of. And, as Lizzie says, that's the source of much unnecessary suffering, because humans change all the time. When we start to see that our demands that those we love 'complete us' are impossible to fulfil, we can start to love as a way of accompanying one another on an unknown path rather than a way to get to a final destination.

The source that starts our conversation off this week is written by Neil Gaiman, and you can find it on the Turning Towards Life website.

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