Two of this podcast’s hosts have been involved in destructive cult dynamics. Matthew’s three years with Michael Roach and three years at Endeavor Academy are at the root of his cult research and journalism. Julian’s six years in the inner circle around what he describes as Ana Forrest’s incendiary and manipulative approach to yoga left him with repressed memories. Those experiences also left his family deeply scarred by some of the same Satanic Panic themes prevalent in the QAnon movement. His ongoing work advocating for critical thinking and community health is part of his recovery.

Derek describes himself as being “cult-adjacent”—not uncommon for a lifelong wellness industry professional. In this episode, he’ll interview Julian and Matthew about their cult experiences, the recovery process, and cultic dynamics in modern yoga, Buddhist, and New Age communities informing the growing field of conspirituality.

They’ll also discuss cultic organizations being ideally positioned to sell “Disaster Spirituality” (props to Naomi Klein) in times of crisis. Cult leaders understand the power of charisma, the attractiveness of transcendental ideology, and what it takes to make vulnerable people feel like every question is answerable with jargon, intrusive eye contact, and deeply deceptive shit. Matthew will ground the discussion with a synopsis of cult research, basic concepts, and useful definitions.

Show Notes

The David Wolfe video about pedophilia and Trump

United States of Conspiracy | PBS documentary

QAnon Casualties: stories on Reddit

Steven Hassan’s “Influence Continuum,” which is helpful for assessing the health of influence

Great podcast about James Arthur Ray and the question of undue influence

Tony Robbins’ PR defends him when people are injured at his firewalking events

Excellent podcast series on Heaven’s Gate

The conviction of Keith Raniere

Peter Georgiades on the legal barriers to cult litigation

Daniel Shaw on “Traumatic Narcissism“

QAnon Anonymous

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