Today on the show, McLean dives into the world of polyamory with coach and podcaster Jessica Esfandiary! Jessica, host of the Open Late podcast, tells her story of opening up her marriage and finding a better version of herself in the process. She shares what led her and her husband to wanting to date outside of their marriage, all the struggles and challenges they faced along the way, and clears up some common misconceptions about non-monogamy. And now, she’s on the path to becoming a mother via surrogacy, and she and McLean discuss what that means for her relationship now. 

In this episode of Mother the Mother:

• Breaking down preconceived notions about non-monogamy
• How to balance more than one romantic relationship
• Challenging the nuclear family dynamic and why community is a huge piece in polyamory 
• Jessica’s experience starting the surrogacy journey 
• Tips for if you’re interested in opening up your relationship

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McLean’s Resources: 

• Instagram: @motherthemother
• Website: www.motherthemother.com 

Follow Jessica:

• Instagram: @journey.with.jessica
• Website: jessicaesfandiary.com
• Podcast: Open Late

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I see you, I hear you, I love you.

Jai Ma. 

Xo - McLean 

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