In Episode 117, Quinn discusses: how accountability works – and doesn’t – in the climate movement, how you can get involved, and how the best in the world are doing it.

Our guests are Mary Annaïse Heglar and Amy Westervelt. The duo makes up Hot Take, a podcast and newsletter that gives an honest look at the climate crisis while providing some of the most empathetic voices in the climate justice movement.

We’ve heard it again and again: the biggest barrier to climate action is political will, but how do you build that (besides putting polluters in jail)? Well, partly through discourse: by helping people understand why they should be fired up. Nobody’s penned more influential, moving climate essays than Mary.

On the other hand, there’s still so much f*cking money and power wrapped up in the fossil fuel industry – and, consequently, the policy surrounding it. And nobody’s done more to uncover their bullshit than Amy, through her investigative podcast series, Drilled.

With their powers combined, we lay the groundwork for change. How do we ensure that the monsters responsible get held accountable for their actions? Listen in!

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Important, Not Important Book Club:

• Black Tide by Antonia Juhasz
• Goodbye to the Low Profile by Herb Schmertz and William Novak
• https://bookshop.org/shop/importantnotimportant

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• hottakepod.com
• amywestervelt.com
• drillednews.com
• Instagram: @mary.heglar
• Instagram: @amywestervelt
• Domino Meme

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