Today's SWAPA Number is 11.9 million. That's the amount of money lost in pure training costs alone from the pilots who have left Southwest since December of 2021. That's a lot of money being lost to attrition, and it doesn't take into account the lost revenue from those pilots no longer being here to fly the schedule as published.

So on today's show, we spoke with NC Chair, Jody Reven, and NC members, Damian Jennette and Kurt Heidemann about where we stand with regard to negotiations and what comes after the SAV at the end of this month.

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