In this episode of The Sacred Speaks, host Dr. John W. Price sits down with Elise Loehnen—writer, researcher, and author of On Our Best Behavior, a book that explores how the ancient moral framework of the seven deadly sins has been internalized by women, shaping their identities, relationships, and sense of worth.

This conversation is not just a review—it’s a ritual inquiry. Together, John and Elise explore:

The invisible “scripts” that define femininity in a patriarchal culture; How envy, pride, sloth, and other so-called “sins” reveal deeper spiritual truths; What Elise risked—and learned—by stepping out from her “invisibility cloak”; How patriarchal systems harm men as well, and the cost of emotional suppression; How men and women can co-create a future rooted in collaboration, not competition

The role of grief, longing, and sacred agency in personal and cultural awakening; Elise also shares behind-the-scenes insight into her writing process, her podcast Pulling the Thread, and her evolving work around binaries, individuation, and collective healing.

This episode is part of a broader arc on The Sacred Speaks focused on rebalancing the masculine and feminine within us and in our culture.

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📅 Wednesday, May 14

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👉 CONNECT WITH ELISE LOEHNEN:

Website: https://www.eliseloehnen.com/about

Check out Elise Loehnen’s powerful book:

On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to Be Good

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Best-Behavior-Seven-Deadly-ebook/dp/B0BN574QYK

Substack: https://eliseloehnen.substack.com/

Podcast: Pulling the Thread

🧭 CHAPTERS:

(00:00) Introduction and Guest Announcement

(00:12) Book Recommendation and Feminine Focus

(00:36) Upcoming Episodes and Personal Projects

(00:49) Cultural Excavation and Feminine Scripts

(03:30) Interview with Elise Loehnen Begins

(04:27) Exploring the Seven Deadly Sins

(06:00) Patriarchy and Cultural Conditioning

(16:54) Masculine and Feminine Archetypes

(20:04) Podcasting and Personal Growth

(25:33) Psychedelics and Personal Experiences

(41:25) Writing as a Transformative Process

(45:16) The 'Me' Story vs. The 'We' Story

(46:52) Individualism vs. Collectivism

(47:31) Individuation and Awakening

(48:36) The Matrix and Cultural Narratives

(50:24) Exploring Envy and Its Origins

(52:17) The Seven Deadly Sins and Their History

(56:45) Navigating Envy in Men and Women

(01:13:40) Patriarchy and Its Impact on Men

(01:19:26) Building a Bigger Tent for Everyone

(01:20:31) Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

🎧 Interview begins at (03:30)

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