Smarty Pants

#121: What Zombie Movies Can Teach Us About Viruses


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In her book Going Viral, pop culture critic and film professor Dahlia Schweizer asks why, and when, outbreak narratives became such a part of our culture. She divides these narratives into three distinct waves of film starting in the early 1990s: first globalization, then terrorism and conspiracy, and then post-apocalypse and zombie films. What's surprising about these outbreak narratives, though, is that they aren't just limited to movies—we've got zombie video games and novels, of course, but we've also got infection and plague narratives saturating news media and government budget documents even before the current coronavirus pandemic made it all real. Journalism, movies, and governments all influence each other, blurring the line between fact and fiction. In her book, Schweizer explores why these outbreak narratives have infected the public conversation and how they have affected the way we see the world, from our neighbors to the government. Dahlia Schweizer joined us in the studio to talk about zombie viruses and bioengineered plagues. A previous version of this interview aired in February 2018.


Go beyond the episode:

  • Dahlia Schweitzer’s Going Viral: Zombies, Viruses, and the End of the World
  • Check out this chart of the three film cycles of outbreak narratives
  • Want to be comforted after all that terror? Here’s an outline of all the female scientists who save the day in these films
  • Watch a how the film Pandemic (2016) blurs fact and fiction with actual news footage
  • In case you had any doubts about Dawn of the Dead (1978) was about consumerism: here’s the mall scene
  • And check out the whole “syllabus” for Going Viral


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