This week, Bob and Erica are joined by journalist and author Vanessa Grigoriadis to talk about her most recent podcast, Infamous, in which she dives into the stories behind some of the biggest scandals. Bob asks Vanessa about her book, “Blurred Lines,” her experience going to divinity school, and, of course, the pronunciation of her last name. They also discuss Joe Francis and the fall of the infamous Girls Gone Wild franchise.

You can hear more about the case and get a new episode every week here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/infamous/id1652941051.