Episode 176 Phyllis Bailer

In 1972, Phyllis Bailer and her toddler daughter set out to make an evening drive to her parents' house for a weekend visit. The drive from their home in Indianapolis to Bluffton, IN should have taken less than two hours. But Phyllis and her child never made it. The next day came awful news for Phyllis's family when she was found dead in a ditch. Her young daughter Jodi was by her side, and suffered only a small injury. And so began a decades-long investigation into Phyllis's murder. A prime suspect focused on by the investigators for years and years seemed like the logical culprit. But police and Phyllis's family would not have definitive answers until IGG came along and pointed them in an entirely different direction.

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Episode 175 Doe ID: 'Charlotte Walmart John Doe' Kenneth McCarthy

In 2016, a John Doe was found behind a WalMart in Charlotte, NC. With no identification and very few personal possessions, he remained unidentified, known only as Charlotte WalMart John Doe. When a cold case detective took a class on IGG analysis, he applied the new technique to Charlotte WalMart John Doe's case, and found relatives who had been looking for him for 12 years. This is the story of Kenneth Robert McCarthy.

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Episode 174 Barbara Villarreal Part 2 of 2

This is part 2; the conclusion of the Barbara Villarreal case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and listen to part 1 first.

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Episode 174 Barbara Villarreal Part 1 of 2

In this Season 6 opener, you'll hear the jaw-dropping, twisty case of Barbara Carr Villarreal. Barbara was stabbed to death in her Garland, TX home in 1986. Her husband was also attacked in the home invasion. But stories and evidence did not match up, and police were left chasing their tails, and chasing their prime suspect who was in the wind. Nothing in this case was as it seemed to be, and justice for Barbara seemed unattainable. Modern investigators had to solve an identity theft case to find the true name of the person they believed was behind Barbara's murder, and then had to use kinship testing to finally name her murderer.

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Episode 173 DNA ID Replay Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson

While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson which originally aired in episode 37.

1979 Las Vegas, a weekday morning. 16 year old Kim Bryant was at a Dairy Queen waiting for her ride – and then she was gone. Her body was found a month later, sexually assaulted, beaten and murdered. A notorious serial killer was the only real suspect – he was executed in Texas, but he didn't kill her. When a tip came in in 2019, new testing was conducted on the biological evidence in Kim's case that isolated a male DNA profile. Forensic genealogy led to the name of a suspect, and further testing of his living relatives revealed that he was the killer of Kim Bryant. But naming him also allowed the LVMPD to close another cold case – the 1983 abduction, rape and murder of 22 year old Diana Hanson. The same killer had struck twice – at least.

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Ep172 DNA ID Replay Susan Negersmith

While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Susan Negersmith which originally aired in episode 74.

In 1990, 20 year old college student Susan Negersmith went to beach town Wildwood, NJ with friends for Memorial Day weekend. Her body was found behind a local restaurant, half naked, shoeless, bloody, riddled with injuries, and with visible marks on her throat. Someone had taken pains to ensure she was obscured from view of passersby – yet her death was ruled an accident. It took her father 6 years to get her death certificate changed to reflect that her death was a homicide – but by that time, the damage was done. Even forensic genealogy, with its wondrous power to provide answers, may not be able to deliver justice for Susan Negersmith.

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Episode 171 DNA ID Replay Helene Pruszynski

While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Helene Pruszynski which originally aired in episode 12.

In 1980, ambitious college student Helene Pruszynski was abducted from Englewood, Colorado. Her body was found in a remote field the next day. She had been raped and stabbed in the back. Police had multiple suspects, and a series of similar attacks, but were never able to gather enough information to arrest anyone. Decades later, a DNA profile from Helene's crime scene would lead them to her killer. He was living thousands of miles away, using another name. A confiscated beer mug would prove to be his downfall, as his DNA linked him to the crime.

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Introducing: Below the Surface from AbJack Entertainment

Below the Surface is a true crime podcast covering a variety of strange and bizarre cases with one common theme; a water connection.

The show features both solved and unsolved cases, some of which are well known, while others have received little attention.

In this special preview of episode 1, we explore the puzzling case of Kim Wall who was Best known for her articles in the Guardian, New York Times, and Vice, journalist. She disappeared in a submarine beneath the Oresund Strait after interviewing inventor, Peter Madsen, on August 10, 2017. We can only speculate what exactly happened below the surface, but upon the submarine's resurface, Kim was missing, but Peter Masden was not. To listen to Episode 1 of Below the Surface, search for it on your favorite podcast app. You can also listen to episode 2 right now. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode.

Below the Surface is hosted by Olivia McKenzie (Co host of True Crime Society). It's produced by Mike Morford of AbJack Entertainment (Co host of Criminology). Research and writing by Abagail Belcastro (Campus Killings)

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Episode 170 DNA ID Replay Eve Wilkowitz

While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Eve Wilkowitz which originally aired in episode 72.

20 year old Eve Wilkowitz's life was all coming together during the first few days of spring, 1980. She had a job she loved and a new boyfriend. Her daily commute into Manhattan from Bay Shore, Long Island was long, but Eve had plans to move into the city. Someone took all that away from her. After boarding the last LIRR train from the city to Long Island, Eve vanished. Her loved ones were frantic for three days, and their worst fears came true when she turned up dead in the backyard of a nearby home. Police turned her complicated love life upside down, and left no stone unturned. Their theory that Eve's abductor and murderer was a neighbor was correct – but they would not know that for decades to come.

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Episode 169 DNA ID Replay; The case of Lee Rotatori

While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week.

In this replay episode, we explore the case of Lee Rotatori which originally aired in episode 70.

In June 1982, Lee Rotatori was excited for the new job that meant a move to Council Bluffs, Iowa. But when Lee was found murdered in the Best Western there, police were stumped. The only clue was floral foam on the floor, and there were no suspects. Lee knew only a few people in town, and her husband was over 600 miles away when she was raped and stabbed in Room 106. Her case went cold. When forensic genealogy pointed to a man named Thomas Freeman as her killer, it just added to the mystery. Freeman had been murdered within weeks of Lee, and his killer was unknown. And, he had no connection whatsoever to Council Bluffs, or Lee. But he did have a connection to Carbondale, IL, where he lived 15 miles from Lee's husband Jerry Nemke – who had a history of his own.

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