Today I talk with pin and patch masterminds These Are Things. These Are Things is a partnership between Jen Adrion and Omar Noory.

In this episode we talk through the rollercoaster of running your own business and how to build a sustainable business with blood, sweat and tears, rather than on pure luck.

These Are Things just launched a new business to help YOU make your own Enamel Pins & Patches. If want to get into the pin and patch game, but don’t know where to start, look no further:

http://thingmfg.co

These Are Things

https://thesearethings.com/

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Thanks to Yoni Wolf and the band WHY? for our theme music.

Thanks to my man Nate Utesch and his band Metavari for all the other tunes! soundcloud.com/metavari

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