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After Benjamin Weiss mentioned my interview with David Holmgren in the conversation about Permaculture and Climate Change, this seemed like a fitting place to start. Even more so, I’m talking with one of my colleagues who works closely with David on a follow-up interview with Mr. Holmgren later this year.

If you are new to the show, or a long time listener, this episode originally aired in 2013. At the time I wanted to talk with David and hear, in his own words, about the origins of permaculture, the influence of people like Howard T. Odum, and what we can do to expand permaculture.

Along the way David takes us through this broad history and what he identifies as three waves of environmentalism: a limit of resources in the 1970s; a limit of what we can put into the environment during the late 80s and 90s; and the convergence of these into a third wave in the last decade or so with Peak Oil and Climate Change.

Find out more about David Holmgren and his work at holmgren.com.au  and via the additional resource links below.

What do you think about what David shared? Are you working on your own successful models of permaculture? What are they? What area of permaculture do you see yourself becoming a master of one?

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