Novel Dialogue

1.4 Feral Fiction: Catherine Lacey and Martin Puchner (JP)


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Novel Dialogue sends Martin Puchner (polymathic author of The Written World and most recently The Language of Thieves) out to speak with Pew author Catherine Lacey. They go a-wandering. Lacey’s earlier works include a 2018 collection of short stories, Certain American States, and two novels: The Answers in 2017 and 2014’s Nobody is Ever Missing, a delightful road novel set in New Zealand–always a sure way to win John’s admiration. Martin starts by noticing the feral through-line in Catherine’s work, a way that people escape or withdraw from socialization. And things go rapidly uphill and downhill from there. In short a rollicking rhythm prevails–you may want to listen while out rambling yourself. Even though Catherine proclaims “we are all housecats now.”

Mentioned in the Episode

  • Mark Twain, Huckleberry Finn
  • Marilynne Robinson, Housekeeping (1980)
  • Jen George, The Babysitter at Rest (The Dorothy Project)
  • Tove Ditlesen, The Copenhagen Trilogy (very dark, very wintry, very icy-but elegant)
  • P.G. Wodehouse
  • Haruki Murakami

  • Aarthi Vadde is Associate Professor of English at Duke University. Email: [email protected]John Plotz is Barbara Mandel Professor of the Humanities at Brandeis University and co-founder of the Brandeis Educational Justice Initiative. Email: [email protected].

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