In this episode we meet Kathleen Downes- a 31-year-old woman who lives with her parents and dog in New York. Kathleen has cerebral palsy, which means she needs constant care to do daily activities. Kathleen talks about the complicated relationship between care recipients and their families, the broken policies that force impossible choices, and the radical act of finding joy despite a system designed for isolation. 

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Our team 

Host: Julia Winston

Producer: Claire McInerny 

Audio Engineer: Josh Gilbert

Theme Music: Luke Top

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