This week Saul and Patrick discuss the recent and significant escalation in the Ukraine conflict, that is the decision by the US and other Nato countries to allow the long range weapons they have given Ukraine to be used to strike Russia inside its own territory.

Joining them to look at the emerging consequences of this, Saul and Patrick speak to friend of the Podcast Askold Kruchelnycky from Kyiv.

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Producer: James Hodgson

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