On this episode, Roy Jacques, Chip Judd, and Joey Svendsen discuss their views on the current state of the Church. From rampant unacknowledged hypocrisy to over-zealous political affiliations at the expense of God's Kingdom, the three share whether, at times, they are uncomfortable being associated with the Church. Churches consists of people who hurt people, because humanity is flawed, even in the church. Chip reflects on his decades of ministry, including church consulting and counseling of pastors and church staffs and says that some churches are flawed at a toxic level.  

Along the way, the three friends discuss professional athletes' exuberant salaries, Roy's broken heart after sending his two oldest to college, socialism vs. capitalism, and Chip gives an update on his current health—nine months after his double lung transplant. 

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In this episode: Roy Jacques | Chip Judd | Joey Svendsen 

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