Recently, Charlie met up with Dr. Tommy Ice, an old friend, at a prophecy conference in Tulsa. Since Dr. Ice specializes in historical theology, eschatology, and Israelology, they sat down to talk about some of these things but also about the history and meaning of the Free Grace message. You will admire Dr. Ice's encyclopedic memory and his sense of humor. He also talks a little about his most recent book, The Case for Zionism. But Dr. Ice has written and contributed to dozens of books, many on the end times. In 1994, he co-founded with Dr. Tim LaHaye the Pre-Trib Research Center which every year has a Pre-Trib Study Group Conference in Dallas, TX. This ministry impresses upon people the importance of prophecy and especially the any-moment possibility of the Rapture to motivate godly living. Dr. Ice earned a Th.M. from Dallas Theological Seminary and a Th.D. from Tyndale Theological Seminary. You can find a treasure trove of resources including books, Bible studies, and videos at the website https://www.pre-trib.org/. Oh--Tommy Ice also gives an answer to the question "When is Jesus coming?" Most people are interested in prophecy, so be sure to share these insights from a leading thinker on the subject.