In this episode, we continue listening to Roy Moran’s 2025 training with us as Praxeis leaders, exploring a critical idea: momentum comes before movement.

Roy grounds the conversation in Proverbs 27:23:

“Be sure you know the condition of your flocks, give careful attention to your herds.”

Movements can easily be treated like machines — measured by outputs, numbers, and generations. But disciple-making movements are not factories. They are about inner transformation. Jesus changes people first; multiplication follows.

One of Roy’s key insights:

“There is a period of momentum before there is a period of movement… We are immature in measuring momentum.”

We often try to measure movement — new groups, multiplication, generations. But in the early stages, there’s very little visible fruit. Instead of measuring outcomes, we need to measure health and obedience.

What does momentum look like?

Before someone becomes a multiplying disciple-maker, they must first learn to simply be a disciple.

There’s an ongoing tension between:

Roy reminds us this tension isn’t a problem to solve but a tension to manage. Healthy leadership means accepting we’ll never have everything covered. It requires walking in the Spirit, not striving for perfect balance.

When we overemphasize metrics, people can subtly become numbers. Roy urges us to remember: people are subjects, not objects. The goal is not activity but transformation.

Especially in church contexts, building momentum can take time. Tradition can slow things down. That’s why we must prioritise depth before speed.

As David Watson said:

“Go slow to go fast.”

Build quality in disciples — and the generations will come.

Push movement metrics to the side in the early phase.
Learn to recognise and celebrate momentum in the internal life — Word, Spirit, obedience, passion.

Movement flows from transformation.

‘What signs of spiritual transformation might indicate that real momentum is already forming in me and in those I’m walking with — even if visible movement hasn’t appeared yet?’